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Linko4 Jul 10, 2008 03:30 AM

cool info man

FLY996 Jul 10, 2008 09:46 PM

Hi Moe,

Thanks for the write up. You don't mention Sealant as part of your processes. Why is that?

MoeMistry Jul 11, 2008 12:51 AM


Originally Posted by FLY996 (Post 1944357)
Hi Moe,

Thanks for the write up. You don't mention Sealant as part of your processes. Why is that?

I've been using carnauba since 1997 and am partial to its look. I'll have a trusted fellow detailer add some more info about synthetics :)

Linko4 Jul 11, 2008 01:04 AM

Moe, What Carnauba formula you use? Like brand?

MoeMistry Jul 11, 2008 02:11 AM


Originally Posted by Linko4 (Post 1944569)
Moe, What Carnauba formula you use? Like brand?

I like zymol and have been using it since 1997.

Linko4 Jul 11, 2008 02:19 AM

Thanks for the replied.

FLY996 Jul 12, 2008 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by MoeMistry (Post 1944553)
I've been using carnauba since 1997 and am partial to its look. I'll have a trusted fellow detailer add some more info about synthetics :)


Would it make sense to seal then top with carnauba?

MoeMistry Jul 12, 2008 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by FLY996 (Post 1946135)
Would it make sense to seal then top with carnauba?

Well, the reason guys are sealing and then adding carnauba is because they want greater lasting protection from a carnauba. So they want the longevity of a sealant and the look of a carnauba. I'm not sure about the other carnauba waxes, but zymol in particular will last months depending on which wax you get. That's why I've never applied anything before the carnauba application.

TT Tommy Jul 12, 2008 08:54 AM

Moe,

I'm running low on Natty's Blue for my black Turbo and was thinking of trying Zymol. Do you think it's any better for black?
Also where would be the best place to buy it if I make the switch?

thanks!
TW

MoeMistry Jul 12, 2008 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by TT Tommy (Post 1946262)
Moe,

I'm running low on Natty's Blue for my black Turbo and was thinking of trying Zymol. Do you think it's any better for black?
Also where would be the best place to buy it if I make the switch?

thanks!
TW

I'm not familiar with Natty's Blue. I've heard good things about it though. I'll be more than glad to get you zymol titanium or concours and have you try it out. If you're not happy, I'll buy it back.

P.S. You're probably 15 min. away from me, so I'll be happy to get your the products you need :)

Here are a few wax kits:

http://www.glisteningperfectionstore...its/Categories

TT Tommy Jul 12, 2008 10:01 AM

Awesome! :D

tw

Grouse Jul 12, 2008 10:15 AM


Quote:
Originally Posted by TT Tommy https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...s/viewpost.gif
Moe,

I'm running low on Natty's Blue for my black Turbo and was thinking of trying Zymol. Do you think it's any better for black?
Also where would be the best place to buy it if I make the switch?

thanks!
TW



Originally Posted by MoeMistry (Post 1946286)
I'm not familiar with Natty's Blue. I've heard good things about it though. I'll be more than glad to get you zymol titanium or concours and have you try it out. If you're not happy, I'll buy it back.

P.S. You're probably 15 min. away from me, so I'll be happy to get your the products you need :)

Here are a few wax kits:

http://www.glisteningperfectionstore...its/Categories

FWIW i have used 4 cans of Natty's blue. It a good product but nothing in comparison to any of the zymol or swiss wax line.

If your going to spring for it I highly recomend either concours (zymol) or concourso(swiss wax) I have both.

damon@tirerack Jul 12, 2008 11:15 AM

I'm sure this is going to come off as amateur, but I am one so..........

I have never clayed before, rather just rubbed the car down with mineral spirits and a microfiber. It does a great job of removing contaminants like tar and sap, and is much faster. It's never done any damage to the paint, at least it looks like it hasn't and leaves it nice and smooth as a prep. Is this a bad thing to do?

MoeMistry Jul 13, 2008 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by damon@tirerack (Post 1946462)
I'm sure this is going to come off as amateur, but I am one so..........

I have never clayed before, rather just rubbed the car down with mineral spirits and a microfiber. It does a great job of removing contaminants like tar and sap, and is much faster. It's never done any damage to the paint, at least it looks like it hasn't and leaves it nice and smooth as a prep. Is this a bad thing to do?

Mineral Spirits is basically a solvent. I think it's used to clean metals and from a little reading on wikipedia, artists use it to thin their paint. As for application on a car, I would think it's fine to do spot treatment to remove tar or something, but as a whole vehicle wipedown, not sure what the advantage would be.

The thing about clay is that it removes embedded materials such as brake dust, acid rain etching, salt residue if you live close to the ocean, etc. I'm not sure how effective mineral spirits would be to remove embedded semi-metallic brake particles that land on your car over time. Think of clay as a more mechanical cleaner as the quartz is abrasive.

Such an amateur question....hilarious Just kidding....no question is ever too amateur :)

J_Edwards Jul 13, 2008 12:27 PM

I have been using solvents to prep paint for a while, and I haven't ever witnessed them doing the same thing as a clay. Obviously they do similar stuff, but when it comes to removing bonded contaminants like rail dust, tree sap, etc... clay is what you need to do the job.

Once you really get the process down, it really isn't very time consuming, especially if you stay on top of it. It is only when you let the paint surface get really hammered with bonded stuff that it makes the claying process take a while.


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