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Jbranda Sep 19, 2015 08:22 PM

What's the story on the '14 GT3s?
 
Hi all, new to the porsche market and have been doing some research for the last few weeks. Are the 14s no good due to engine fire issues? If engine replaced due to recall does it make it any better?

Appreciate the responses from All the 911 gurus.

Nikolas Sep 20, 2015 12:15 PM

All 2014 GT3 had their motors replaced with the identical motor in the 2015 & 2016. They are identical in every way to all other 991 GT3s.

Nikolas Sep 20, 2015 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by Nikolas (Post 4402786)
All 2014 GT3 had their motors replaced with the identical motor in the 2015 & 2016. They are identical in every way to all other 991 GT3s.

Also, only 2 documented cases of fires before Porsche did the stop sale and recall.

fxz Sep 20, 2015 12:31 PM

only impact is on collectors market
they still prefer no recall ones (my 2015 and my 2016)
despite engine are the same

Jbranda Sep 20, 2015 12:59 PM

So if I'm going to buy a 991 gt3 it's best to stick with a '15 if I want to minimize depreciation hit when looking to sell? Sounds like people will be more weary of '14 even if the engine was changed.

fxz Sep 20, 2015 01:11 PM

so far they re sold with less than 10kmiles at MSRP or very close

production is almost close i see appreciation not depreciation for low mileage good conditions ones

Jbranda Sep 20, 2015 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by fxz (Post 4402804)
so far they re sold with less than 10kmiles at MSRP or very close

production is almost close i see appreciation not depreciation for low mileage good conditions ones

You're refering to '14's?

RPVantage Sep 20, 2015 07:56 PM

I know of one close friend that he is getting engine replaced on his 2015 and I know of another 2015 that it is on the second engine. Both in Texas. Porsche hasn't provided any explanation yet. The engine on my friends car just got stuck.

earlierapex Sep 21, 2015 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by Nikolas (Post 4402786)
All 2014 GT3 had their motors replaced with the identical motor in the 2015 & 2016. They are identical in every way to all other 991 GT3s.

This is not absolute. Starting about 2/3rd the way through the '14 model run, the "new" engines were installed at the factory.

Nikolas Sep 21, 2015 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by earlierapex (Post 4403210)
This is not absolute. Starting about 2/3rd the way through the '14 model run, the "new" engines were installed at the factory.

Actually it is absolute. Even the ones on the factory floor had the original motor installed. Once their time came up in the sequence, the motor was removed and the new one installed. All 785 2014 cars had their motors replaced and were issued engine certificates. I know this for a fact, since mine was one of those cars where the engine was replaced at the factory.

sportscentury Sep 22, 2015 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by Nikolas (Post 4403581)
Actually it is absolute. Even the ones on the factory floor had the original motor installed. Once their time came up in the sequence, the motor was removed and the new one installed. All 785 2014 cars had their motors replaced and were issued engine certificates. I know this for a fact, since mine was one of those cars where the engine was replaced at the factory.

If the later ones had the engines replaced before they left the factory, they will not have branded titles. So that would certainly separate the later ones from the earlier ones and be a meaningful difference to many people (I know it would be to me).

earlierapex Sep 22, 2015 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by Nikolas (Post 4403581)
Actually it is absolute. Even the ones on the factory floor had the original motor installed. Once their time came up in the sequence, the motor was removed and the new one installed. All 785 2014 cars had their motors replaced and were issued engine certificates. I know this for a fact, since mine was one of those cars where the engine was replaced at the factory.

I didn't realize that. Thank you for the correction. I'm not sure if it really matters. I've got a "later" '14 that was delivered from the factory with the new engine, so it was never subject to a traditional recall. In any case, my and your 2014s were delivered from the factory with 2015 engines.

Nikolas Sep 22, 2015 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by sportscentury (Post 4403716)
If the later ones had the engines replaced before they left the factory, they will not have branded titles. So that would certainly separate the later ones from the earlier ones and be a meaningful difference to many people (I know it would be to me).

"Branded" titles were only given to buy backs. That was around 30 cars. All other cars have clear titles with a certificate for the engine.

The only difference on paper between the earlier cars already in owners hands and the ones yet to be delivered is the early cars had the engine replaced at port by technicians from the factory, and the later ones had the engine replaced at the factory.

The cars with branded titles are only branded as buy backs, where the new owner elected not to accept the car with the engine replacement.

Nikolas Sep 22, 2015 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by earlierapex (Post 4403812)
I didn't realize that. Thank you for the correction. I'm not sure if it really matters. I've got a "later" '14 that was delivered from the factory with the new engine, so it was never subject to a traditional recall. In any case, my and your 2014s were delivered from the factory with 2015 engines.

Yes that is correct. Which is also the same motor installed in the already delivered GT3's. That is also why 14's, 15's & 16's are all identical cars, regardless of the recall.

sportscentury Sep 23, 2015 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by Nikolas (Post 4404043)
"Branded" titles were only given to buy backs. That was around 30 cars. All other cars have clear titles with a certificate for the engine.

The only difference on paper between the earlier cars already in owners hands and the ones yet to be delivered is the early cars had the engine replaced at port by technicians from the factory, and the later ones had the engine replaced at the factory.

The cars with branded titles are only branded as buy backs, where the new owner elected not to accept the car with the engine replacement.

Good points.


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