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How to make a Gt3 lighter?

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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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You probably need to keep in check where you want to take the wieght off since that affects distribution...duhh. Was watching on tv a race at Watkins Glen between an M3 and C2S. The announcers was saying how well the Pcar was handling in the rain because of the rear-bias wieght over the engine = more traction as compared to the M3. However, in the dry the M3's 50/50 had the advantage (???).

Anyway, how would making the Pcar's weight distr. more even affect its handling? Better or worse?
 
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also consider a racing battery. save a ton of weight with thta
 
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You probably need to keep in check where you want to take the wieght off since that affects distribution...duhh. Was watching on tv a race at Watkins Glen between an M3 and C2S. The announcers was saying how well the Pcar was handling in the rain because of the rear-bias wieght over the engine = more traction as compared to the M3. However, in the dry the M3's 50/50 had the advantage (???).

Anyway, how would making the Pcar's weight distr. more even affect its handling? Better or worse?
Lot's of pro and semi pro race team use little techniques to add weight and DF to the front of the car. This includes ballast as low as possible, and frontward, but near the center of gravity. Obviously the easiest place is the boot, but some use liquid lead in the undercarriage towards the front under the drivers and passengers foot wells. If you can get a little in the front, then do it.

Of course these guys are driving on big slicks and have more DF, but in general, adding a little weight to the front of the car will help push as opposed to making the car heavy on the oversteer side with suspension tuning. But add the weight, then Corner Balance and tune the suspension again with that in mind.
 
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racing battery, and hit the treadmill! lol
 
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To save weight immediately you should probably start off with the simplest inexpensive things - remove all CDs, loose change, porno mags and hair styling products from within your car. Tear off the Porsche hood embelem and GT3 boot logo. Fill the inside of the car with helium. Remove the fabric padding from the seats, steering wheel and on the floor. Get a shorter haircut. Replace the engine with a really buff hamster in a running wheel. Pray for G0D to change the gravitational constant of the universe..
 

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Install a Titanium Akrapovic Evolution Race Exhaust System

About 6 weeks ago I installed this very system on my GT3 RS, its better than I could imagine and the whole system as you can see on the picture weighs only 31 lbs, I believe that is almost 70 lbs lighter than stock. I don't think there is a better place to loose weight on a GT3 than 2 - 3' behind the rear axle.
I believe to be the first in the US with this system installed. Very soon I will write a report with pictures and sound files.
 
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Originally Posted by Md11skipper
About 6 weeks ago I installed this very system on my GT3 RS, its better than I could imagine and the whole system as you can see on the picture weighs only 31 lbs, I believe that is almost 70 lbs lighter than stock. I don't think there is a better place to loose weight on a GT3 than 2 - 3' behind the rear axle.
I believe to be the first in the US with this system installed. Very soon I will write a report with pictures and sound files.
Simply Amazing! Can't wait for the write-up! Would love to hear how it performs over the stock system. Are you going to dyno for numbers? Also, please let us know how much change this cost and dealer source. Really, that system looks incredible. The closest system that I could find that saves any significant weight is the AWE Tuning system...but this takes the cake...GL!
 
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In addition to the "easy" changes---seats, wheels, battery--dont forget to drain the windshield washer fluid..an easy ~15 lbs.

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Originally Posted by Md11skipper
About 6 weeks ago I installed this very system on my GT3 RS, its better than I could imagine and the whole system as you can see on the picture weighs only 31 lbs, I believe that is almost 70 lbs lighter than stock. I don't think there is a better place to loose weight on a GT3 than 2 - 3' behind the rear axle.
I believe to be the first in the US with this system installed. Very soon I will write a report with pictures and sound files.
Can't wait for your write up. I have been considering the Akrapovic 'supercup' exhaust for my car as I am worried the full race set up with the 100 cell cats might not pass emissions where I live. I am assuming you are the one who got the promotional price from FVD? If so, congratulations.
 
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Originally Posted by Haen
Become a better driver! You're going to get way more performance out of your car if you improve your technique through professional instruction and practice as opposed to removing weight from your car.
I agree.
 
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Pardon if the following sounds a bit harsh but...
Losing one or two hundred pounds off of the car is really playing in the margins unless you are a spectacular driver. And if you are spectacular (in both talent and experience) you've probably been hanging with people who well know how to lighten the car.
Since you're asking, I presume not. Of course, I could be wrong and if so, my apologies. But assuming I'm right, clean out the interior, make sure you have some fresh brake fluid in the car and then practice as much as you can.
 
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