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Nissan GTR vs Lamborghini Aventador - Drag Race

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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 05:16 PM
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Im talking Intakes, mid pipe and a tune.... and that lambo would meet its match...
 
Old Jun 3, 2013 | 06:50 PM
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Yeah, but now we're talking aftermarket...

Whole other story.
 
Old Jun 3, 2013 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jaspergtr
Yeah, but now we're talking aftermarket...

Whole other story.
would you consider 110octain and a change in the computers thinking aftermarket?
Bottom line is I just don't like to see the GTR lose to anything hahhahaha you know
It hurts! deep in side! hahahaha
 
Old Jun 3, 2013 | 07:23 PM
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would you consider... a change...Bottom...I just don't like ...you know...It hurts! deep in side! hahahaha
Fixed.
 
Old Jun 4, 2013 | 07:01 AM
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would you consider 110octain and a change in the computers thinking aftermarket?
Bottom line is I just don't like to see the GTR lose to anything hahhahaha you know
It hurts! deep in side! hahahaha
lol! There is always a faster car. What some manufacturers have done is given up, and trying to redefine what "better" means. We can thank the 911, the Corvette, and now the GT-R for that (and soon the GT500).
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Fixed.
I think you quoted a little out of context.
 
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I think you quoted a little out of context.
I couldn't resist. It was too easy. I still think I was well within the acceptable creative quotation limit that is routinely demonstrated during political campaigns. I have to maintain my journalistic integrity. Since I have none, as I'm not a journalist, I guess you can consider it maintained.
 
Old Jun 4, 2013 | 10:50 AM
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Sorry but this really is a silly argument. Why do (some) GTR owners only care about how much faster they are than others? Do they think the owners of other more expensive cars were unaware of the GTR?

Perhaps the answer is they wanted different things from THEIR car than a GTR can deliver. These two cars cater to very different people. Every car makes engineering trade offs. These cars are each making different trade offs.

The Aventador does not exist for the same reasons as the GTR. If that is not obvious, you don't really get the point of a car like that.

The GTR only has one mission: be fast. And it will remove the driver from the equation if it has to. It has been designed to make fast attainable and easy for average drivers. By any measure it's an impressive car, but its been built for people who care more about numbers than experience. Not saying it lacks experience, just that if it has to choose, the designers choose numbers.

The Aventador is a totally different beast. It's a supercar, and that means more than just numbers, especially quarter mile numbers. Supercars have to have an otherworldly impression and experience. That alone is a huge part of their appeal. They are meant to be a big statement.

The big Lambos have traditionally been a handful and slightly intimidating, these cars always wanted to remind the driver they were playing with fire. This car is an experience and an object to covet. It's not just a blunt tool to get the job done. The tool itself is the point.

If that does not appeal to you, buy the GTR and love it for what it does.

Many people will buy a car for not only how fast it goes, but also for HOW it goes fast. My guess is its more fun to go slightly slower in a Lambo with that v12 howling in the back.

Going fast is the easy part.its physics. Creating a car that can transcend the numbers is the hard part.

I own a V12 Vantage. I also owned an R8 V10 at the same time. Both were awesome. The R8V10 was by far the faster car, but I preferred the more visceral drive of the V12 and sold the R8V10 for a Cayman R track car.

That little Cayman is the lowest hp car I had owned in a while (even my SUV has 510 hp), but it has a sublime chassis and it is magic on the track. Sometimes the way a car does something is more important than the numbers. At least for the people who actually buy them.
 

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Originally Posted by black penguin
Sorry but this really is a silly argument. Why do (some) GTR owners only care about how much faster they are than others? Do they think the owners of other more expensive cars were unaware of the GTR?

Perhaps the answer is they wanted different things from THEIR car than a GTR can deliver. These two cars cater to very different people. Every car makes engineering trade offs. These cars are each making different trade offs.

The Aventador does not exist for the same reasons as the GTR. If that is not obvious, you don't really get the point of a car like that.

The GTR only has one mission: be fast. And it will remove the driver from the equation if it has to. It has been designed to make fast attainable and easy for average drivers. By any measure it's an impressive car, but its been built for people who care more about numbers than experience. Not saying it lacks experience, just that if it has to choose, the designers choose numbers.

The Aventador is a totally different beast. It's a supercar, and that means more than just numbers, especially quarter mile numbers. Supercars have to have an otherworldly impression and experience. That alone is a huge part of their appeal. They are meant to be a big statement.

The big Lambos have traditionally been a handful and slightly intimidating, these cars always wanted to remind the driver they were playing with fire. This car is an experience and an object to covet. It's not just a blunt tool to get the job done. The tool itself is the point.

If that does not appeal to you, buy the GTR and love it for what it does.

Many people will buy a car for not only how fast it goes, but also for HOW it goes fast. My guess is its more fun to go slightly slower in a Lambo with that v12 howling in the back.

Going fast is the easy part.its physics. Creating a car that can transcend the numbers is the hard part.

I own a V12 Vantage. I also owned an R8 V10 at the same time. Both were awesome. The R8V10 was by far the faster car, but I preferred the more visceral drive of the V12 and sold the R8V10 for a Cayman R track car.

That little Cayman is the lowest hp car I had owned in a while (even my SUV has 510 hp), but it has a sublime chassis and it is magic on the track. Sometimes the way a car does something is more important than the numbers. At least for the people who actually buy them.
Simply outstanding post.
 
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Eh, I didn't really see where that came in to the discussion about a simple drag race.

Clearly, both drivers were doing the same thing - holding the wheel straight, and accelerating.

Anything other than that is out of context from the OP.

I feel that is a waste in both cars, but everybody has a preference.
 
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JasperGT, I'm agreeing with you.

The original post was talking about a drag race, the rest of them, not so much
 
Old Jun 4, 2013 | 06:47 PM
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JasperGT, I'm agreeing with you.

The original post was talking about a drag race, the rest of them, not so much
Roger.

I agreed with your post as well..., I guessed I dismissed the rest of the argument that took place after the original post.
 
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Even though my GTR is faster than a Bugatti but that doesn't mean I will never buy a Bugatti if I have the means. I will jump on it in a heartbeat. Who's faster has been a debate of ages when the term "Car Enthusiast" lost its luster. From the pictures you see online the Bugatti looks extremely comfortable. On the other hand my wife complained that the GTR is a chick magnet. I told her if her back start hurting sitting in my Carbon fiber bucket, even if I was to cheat, even the best of the best contortionist will get a leg cramp. Getting hot back seat action, Furgettabout it!

It is almost like Guys with monstrous lower extremities gets all the chick is a misconception you will see in a poor acting porno flicks that puts Ben Affleck to shame. The survival of the fittest does apply in our every day society. Most of the poor chaps with Monstrous lower extremities started their career getting their fudge packed in a low budget gay ****.

Who gives a **** if your car run faster than mine. You only get to live once. Go out and live like you're sixteen all over again.
 

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I'm sorry but even with a Alpha whatever, comparing a GTR to an Aventador is plain ridiculous.

my IPhone keeps better time than my Rolex; doesn't mean that I'll take the IPhone over it.
What an excellent post and analogy! Well said sir
 
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What an excellent post and analogy! Well said sir
Not really. You can't drive a refrigerator to work.

See how weird that was?

Being as you can't wear an iPhone on your wrist (as jewelry), that would not be a comparative analogy.

I mean - my car has great A/C, and my fridge keeps things cool as well... I'll keep my fridge.

My microwave may keep better time than your iPhone, but you can't make phone calls with a microwave.

Besides, there are far too many other brands of watches that look exactly like a Rolex. Nothing looks like a Lamborghini Aventador. This is where the Lamborghini is on another playing field. I don't think too many would argue that. Whether or not is preferred - that is preference. But the styling/experience is definitely more dramatic.
 
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Originally Posted by jaspergtr
Not really. You can't drive a refrigerator to work.

See how weird that was?

Being as you can't wear an iPhone on your wrist (as jewelry), that would not be a comparative analogy.

I mean - my car has great A/C, and my fridge keeps things cool as well... I'll keep my fridge.

My microwave may keep better time than your iPhone, but you can't make phone calls with a microwave.

Besides, there are far too many other brands of watches that look exactly like a Rolex. Nothing looks like a Lamborghini Aventador. This is where the Lamborghini is on another playing field. I don't think too many would argue that. Whether or not is preferred - that is preference. But the styling/experience is definitely more dramatic.
You are right but.... You can actually convert an Apple Nano to a wrist watch. Just kidding. Maybe the analogy would make sense if he was comparing a $6000 Omega Planet Ocean Co-Axial versus a $15,000 Rolex GMT.

I own both and the Omega keeps a better time than my Rolex.
 


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