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bal 02-16-2014 06:24 PM

Repainting hood and bumper
 
Hi there,

I'm looking to get the hood and possibly front bumper of my 2002 996 repainted. It is Lapis Blue (which has metallic particles) if that makes a difference.
What are some recommended and relatively inexpensive places in the Seattle area?

Many thanks!

jags911tt 02-17-2014 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by bal (Post 4049129)
Hi there,

I'm looking to get the hood and possibly front bumper of my 2002 996 repainted. It is Lapis Blue (which has metallic particles) if that makes a difference.
What are some recommended and relatively inexpensive places in the Seattle area?

Many thanks!

Queen City. Not in Seattle but in Redmond. Worth the drive IMHO.

Jag

bal 02-18-2014 12:48 AM

Thanks. Second recommendation that I've had for them.

Rahtok 02-19-2014 04:21 PM

I'll third Queen City. Steve over there is a great guy. And his guys care -- they do things the right way. I've got a car in there right now, and they did two jobs for me last year.

bal 02-19-2014 09:38 PM

They did a new bumper for my A6 a while back and I was happy but I figured I'd ask around especially since insurance is not footing the bill.

I'm told that reputable shops price about the same due to the large amount of insurance work. I was quoted just under $3k for the hood, fenders and bumper cover. Less than I was expecting. I need to do the hood and the bumper cover and the advice is to do the fenders since it'll be impossible to match the old paint properly if I just do the hood and bumper cover. Also the fenders have multiple chips so I'm in for the front end.

SeattleBum 02-20-2014 02:31 PM

Queen City +100

exyoung 03-17-2014 11:53 PM

Unfortunately, I didn't have an agreeable experience at Queen City this past week. I wanted to get the hood and both fenders repainted on my Aston Martin Vantage because of rock chips (and have them wrapped by a detailer afterwards).

Scott at Queen City said it would cost in the ballpark of $1,000+ when he saw my car in-person, confirming what Steve had estimated over the phone the day prior. The next day, Scott emailed me an estimate for $3,800. When I asked him why the estimate was almost 4x times greater than his original ballpark, he said he forgot that high-end/exotics require "special handling" and that they charge a higher labor rate for them. I thought it was odd because Steve gave me the same $1,000+ ballpark over the phone, specifically after mentioning my car is an AM Vantage. I told Scott I hope they take the same time and care regardless of the badge, for removing body panels shouldn't be drastically more difficult on high-end/exotics. It looked to me like they were fishing for a whale.

I recommend Paramount Centre in Fife. They do excellent work at a fixed labor rate regardless of the badge, be it a Lamborghini or a Nissan, and constantly work on the high-end German makes and exotics alike. Paramount also charged significantly less.

bal 03-18-2014 08:06 AM

Thanks exyoung. The actual estimate came out to be about $150 more than the email quote at QC. Basically $3k for the hood, bumper and fenders.
I'm tempted to at least talk to the people in Fife. You've been happy with their work I take it?

jags911tt 03-18-2014 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by exyoung (Post 4070574)
Unfortunately, I didn't have an agreeable experience at Queen City this past week. I wanted to get the hood and both fenders repainted on my Aston Martin Vantage because of rock chips (and have them wrapped by a detailer afterwards).

Scott at Queen City said it would cost in the ballpark of $1,000+ when he saw my car in-person, confirming what Steve had estimated over the phone the day prior. The next day, Scott emailed me an estimate for $3,800. When I asked him why the estimate was almost 4x times greater than his original ballpark, he said he forgot that high-end/exotics require "special handling" and that they charge a higher labor rate for them. I thought it was odd because Steve gave me the same $1,000+ ballpark over the phone, specifically after mentioning my car is an AM Vantage. I told Scott I hope they take the same time and care regardless of the badge, for removing body panels shouldn't be drastically more difficult on high-end/exotics. It looked to me like they were fishing for a whale.

I recommend Paramount Centre in Fife. They do excellent work at a fixed labor rate regardless of the badge, be it a Lamborghini or a Nissan, and constantly work on the high-end German makes and exotics alike. Paramount also charged significantly less.


Did you at least address the issue with Steve?

Rahtok 03-18-2014 12:45 PM

Steve is great to work with -- and he cares about the work his shop puts out. The difference in labor rate alone wouldn't account for that big a swing in estimates. It sounds like the first was a color sand / clear and the larger estimate involved a full repaint. May have to do with color, aging, damage...

Not to say that you didn't have a bad experience, but it would seem there's a little more to the story there too.

I've found very few businesses with the level of attention to detail and care of reputation that these guys have. Just my $.02.

Joeacc 03-18-2014 01:03 PM

I can do either car, 996 front end or vantage front end for $2500. Not a problem. My shop is in Buckley, ACC Collision, and have worked on several members cars. Porsches, ferrari, lamborghini, we have worked on all of them. I still currently lurk on this site daily, just haven't posted much in a while.

exyoung 03-18-2014 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by bal (Post 4070704)
Thanks exyoung. The actual estimate came out to be about $150 more than the email quote at QC. Basically $3k for the hood, bumper and fenders.
I'm tempted to at least talk to the people in Fife. You've been happy with their work I take it?

I have. I had my lower bumper repainted back in 2011, and they did a phenomenal job. I'm expecting the same quality of work on my hood and fenders when I get her back next week.

exyoung 03-18-2014 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by jags911tt (Post 4070822)
Did you at least address the issue with Steve?

Jags, I did not. I imagined Scott represents QC well given his 6+ years with them and that both had talked. I don't doubt the quality of work they offer, as Scott reminded me several times how they work on Ferraris all the time. However, I didn't agree with his explanation in terms of pricing and the differences.

exyoung 03-18-2014 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by Rahtok (Post 4070963)
Steve is great to work with -- and he cares about the work his shop puts out. The difference in labor rate alone wouldn't account for that big a swing in estimates. It sounds like the first was a color sand / clear and the larger estimate involved a full repaint. May have to do with color, aging, damage...

Not to say that you didn't have a bad experience, but it would seem there's a little more to the story there too.

I've found very few businesses with the level of attention to detail and care of reputation that these guys have. Just my $.02.

Rahtok, ya, I heard great things about their work too; I don't doubt their quality. Unfortunately, those are the facts of my experience. Good to hear you were satisfied with your experience, though. You definitely want to find someone that will do it right and fairly, especially with car enthusiasts like us!

exyoung 03-18-2014 07:17 PM

I just received a call from Steve apologizing for some bad information. Class act on his part. The increase in the labor for my estimate is due in part to my aluminum body; not because my car is simply high-end/exotic as explained to me previously. Specifically, the need to prevent corrosion as a result of contamination from tools used on steel bodies. Furthermore, Scott had incorrectly applied this higher rate to the paint portions of my estimate. The corrected estimate Steve provided me today was $2,800 instead of $3,800. I appreciated the call from Steve, thanked him, and shared Rahtok's experience as I know Rahtok from outside the forums (but didn't recognize him on here).

As for a recommendation, I still choose Paramount as the other contender in this thread. They provided me with a lower quote, also do amazing work, and are also trained certified in aluminum body repairs.

bal 03-18-2014 08:36 PM

My update: I spoke to Paramount and got a ballpark of $2200 for the work that I want done. The email quote from QC was $2500 and went up to $2850 when they actually took a look (there are two dings on the fenders that need to be removed that I forgot to mention in my email to them.)

Obviously, to get an accurate estimate from Paramount, I would have to have them inspect the vehicle and I fully expect the estimate to increase a little. The gentleman I spoke to at Paramount said that he'd heard good things about QC but had not personally seen their work. We agreed that given my proximity to QC, it makes the most sense to use them.

M Baker 04-09-2014 11:30 AM

Did you have the front repainted by QC? If so how was your experience?

bal 04-09-2014 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by M Baker (Post 4087607)
Did you have the front repainted by QC? If so how was your experience?

It is currently being done while I am on a trip. Hoping to get it back on Saturday.

bal 04-12-2014 06:59 PM

Here are a couple of before and a lot more after pics:
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...30-post56.html


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