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LouvreLife 01-02-2019 12:01 PM

Brighter reverse lights?? 2016 Panamera GTS
 
Hey all,

It's hard to see when I backup at night in my 2016 Panamera. Are there any brighter reverse lights to use instead??

LouDA 01-02-2019 12:09 PM

Would like to know this too - I'm sure I've seen something about it on the forum though. It should be just as simple as a bulb swap for a bright white LED I'd think (perhaps even just a 194?)

skiracer13 01-02-2019 02:35 PM

I tried taking mine apart to replace w/ an LED bulb and it did not appear to be serviceable. License plate bulbs super simple, but I would also like to upgrade my reverse lights. I found a thread where a vendor claimed it could be done easily but that wasn't my experience.

DogWood 01-02-2019 05:23 PM

I'd be interested in more light as well, the 2010 factory part # is 999 631 250 91
parts images make it look like a rather unique piece (of course)
as seen here https://www.gaudinporscheparts.com/o...b-99963125091/

seems it was used in a number of models - might be able to find an answer in some of the other groups

found these: https://www.carid.com/2010-porsche-p...bs-403817.html
bit pricey, claims to fit all 970 models

970gts 01-02-2019 06:57 PM

Wanted brighter reverse lights too.
User manual indicated that it would be a simple bulb swap after removing the taillight assembly, and then removing the cover behind the reverse light bulb.
Bought a pair of Canbus error free LED white bulbs and removed taillight.

Like skiracer13, found out that the reverse bulbs could not be removed.
There is a permanent cover where the manual says should be a removable cover.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.6sp...2156383701.jpg
2013 GTS

DogWood 01-02-2019 11:53 PM

Interesting and rather odd, will have to take a look at mine as well, suspect I'll find the same.

skiracer13 01-03-2019 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by 970gts (Post 4758169)
Wanted brighter reverse lights too.
User manual indicated that it would be a simple bulb swap after removing the taillight assembly, and then removing the cover behind the reverse light bulb.
Bought a pair of Canbus error free LED white bulbs and removed taillight.

Like skiracer13, found out that the reverse bulbs could not be removed.
There is a permanent cover where the manual says should be a removable cover.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.6sp...2156383701.jpg
2013 GTS

Yep, I got to that same point and realized that I was getting in over my head. Sure wish there was an easy way - I have an assortment of LED bulbs to try but can't access the socket at all.

LouvreLife 01-04-2019 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by skiracer13 (Post 4758241)
Yep, I got to that same point and realized that I was getting in over my head. Sure wish there was an easy way - I have an assortment of LED bulbs to try but can't access the socket at all.

Which LED bulbs do you have?

skiracer13 01-04-2019 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by LouvreLife (Post 4758484)
Which LED bulbs do you have?

I have a fairly wide variety of LED bulbs (mostly Ziza brand) left over from many Audi and Porsche interiors that I've retrofitted. The license plate bulbs I installed work great w/ no errors messages - I believe they're all CAN-BUS compatible. The issue I had w/ the reverse lights is that I can't get to the bulb very easily as it is sealed in some type of compartment per the pic above.

DogWood 01-06-2019 10:23 AM

weird, just popped mine (2010 4S, produced 11/2009) and I have the backup light access hatch, I wonder why there is so much variation?
found a video about it, they mistakenly take out all 3 torx screws, you only need to remove the middle one. (T-25)
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.6sp...71236528c9.jpg

skiracer13 01-06-2019 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by DogWood (Post 4758780)
weird, just popped mine (2010 4S, produced 11/2009) and I have the backup light access hatch, I wonder why there is so much variation?
found a video about it, they mistakenly take out all 3 torx screws, you only need to remove the middle one. (T-25)
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.6sp...71236528c9.jpg


Any chance you can post the video you found? Maybe I'm missing something...

DogWood 01-06-2019 03:57 PM

found them here:
https://www.carcarekiosk.com/video/2.../reverse_light

skiracer13 01-06-2019 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by DogWood (Post 4758834)

Many thanks - I'll try again when I have a chance later this week.

970gts 01-06-2019 07:36 PM

Maybe after the 2010 (or later) model year, Porsche made the reverse light non-serviceable?
Or depends on whether you have a Base, S, GTS or Turbo?

Thought a possibility was that the reverse lights might be unserviceable because they were already LED...…
wishful thinking, they look like they're incandescent.
Can't think of a rationale why Porsche wouldn't allow the reverse lights to be changed out.

skiracer13 01-06-2019 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by 970gts (Post 4758863)
Maybe after the 2010 (or later) model year, Porsche made the reverse light non-serviceable?
Or depends on whether you have a Base, S, GTS or Turbo?

Thought a possibility was that the reverse lights might be unserviceable because they were already LED...…
wishful thinking, they look like they're incandescent.
Can't think of a rationale why Porsche wouldn't allow the reverse lights to be changed out.

I think they can - there's just another step involved. I'm hoping one in my current assortment will work - I spend a lot of time in the mountains in the wintertime and would really appreciate more light back there.


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