2011 Panamera Turbo - Upgraded/Upgrading
Bought a black CPO black PTT three years ago with all of the performance options (Sport Chrono and every active suspension acronym) and immediately did some minor cosmetic tweaks. Blacked out all of the chrome except for the logos and painted the side vents to match the car.
Would have done more after that but quickly became apparent mine had the squirrelly/jerky PDK issues that made the car a bit of a PITA in anything other than sport plus back road driving ... and even then it would exhibit some quirks that made that it less than ideal. So I was really just waiting until I wasn't underwater on the loan/value so I could trade it in for something new. Fast forward two years and the month of torrential downpours we were getting last year clogged the drain plugs in the tail/hatch which somehow sent water into the area where the battery and many of the control units are located. $10,000 repair bill (luckily covered by insurance) and the car was in the shop for several weeks because every time they'd replace one thing something else further up the chain would start throwing errors. Even though nothing that was replaced had anything to do with the engine or transmission it was very ... very obvious within a mile of driving it away from the dealership the Panamera was better than it had ever been ... finally the car I'd read about in all of the reviews. Over the next month kept waiting for the day I'd fire it up and find the gremlins had taken hold again but, one year later, the car is still a blast to drive. (we have some theories about the "why" and I'd be happy to expand on this item if anyone is interested). So I've been back in upgrade mode for the last few months now that I'm planning to hold onto the car for a while. Done so far:
So I have a question about that last one ... the tips. If you look at the picture I included I want to have the forged piece (green arrow) of the cosmetic shell and the actual pipes ceramic coated in black for durability and so they look about the same between washes when there's a bit of exhaust soot on them. But I want the other part of the shell (red arrow) to contrast with the black. I really like factory black chrome look that Porsche does on some of their tips but seems like most places say actual black chrome isn't very durable. Can anyone tell me if that factory finish is really black chrome or something else? And, if whatever it is does hold up pretty well if you take care of them? I'm also just thinking of having that part done in just a medium-dark gloss gray so I'm looking for suggestions for how to best do that with something that won't lose the gloss over time. Any suggestions on that last item would be appreciated. I haven't taken that many pictures of the car during this upgrade phase ... want to wait until I have the current to-do list knocked out ... so just including one I took of the front of the car when I was at a friend's shop doing the ECU flash that shows the new (to me) headlights on the Panamera. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.6sp...0f89520133.jpg "Black" headlights. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.6sp...08eb26aa4f.jpg Tail lights ... bottom how they look now, top how I want them to look. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.6sp...dcbe6423ed.jpg Exhaust tip pieces for reference. |
My suggestion is powder or ceramic coat the tips. This will be more durable the standard high-temp paint. Love to hear the feedback on the FVD PDK tune.
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Looks great so far!
subscribed for thoughts on the PDK tune as well... |
Definitely will be doing ceramic on the forged piece and actual pipes but you don't have that many options with ceramic and think I want the shells to be something that's a little shiny to set it off. They don't get as hot as the other bits and I'd be willing to give up some durability to get the look I want.
I've been pretty busy in the couple of weeks since getting the tune so haven't put a lot of miles on it but it's nothing but positives so far. The car feels a little smoother now just driving around town and when you get into it the power is very linear and predictable in the curves but the difference from stock is not subtle. In sport plus it's a beast and if you have sport chrono you still get that extra 10%ish during hard acceleration but with the tune it's available up to red line. Price of the tune includes the MyGenius tool and the whole process is super easy. Plug it into the car and it downloads whatever information they need about your car and then you email the file it gives to the engineers in Germany. If they get it during their regular business hours you have it back that day ... think I got mine back in about 2 hours and then loading it to the car took about 20 minutes. Felt great right after but apparently the ECU needs some time to adapt so you need to drive the car some before you get the full benefits. Don't know if it's better or worse the the others out there (definitely the cheapest compared to actual tunes and not piggy-backs) but if you've been thinking about getting one I suggest calling their Florida warehouse and talking the Rhonda. She's very knowledgeable (and very nice) and was able to answer all the questions I had .... and didn't try to upsell me on anything. In fact, after telling her what I was looking to get from the upgrade, she actually suggested that a couple of the other bits I was considering would probably be money better spent elsewhere. |
Oh, sorry .... missed that the first reply specified feedback for the PDK tune.
I'd imagine I'll be doing that within the next 2-4 weeks and will update here when it's done. For some reason my post prior to this is being "moderated" and in that I gave some impressions of the ECU tune. |
Excited to hear about the pdk tune, I have been contemplating it for a while. I would suggest doing the downpipes I did the catless fvd pipes, but it’s still really quiet iMO I will do a resonator delete and see how loud it is after that . Keep us posted on the pdk tune. But honestly it sounds like that panamera may just need to be totaled becaues of all the problems. But good luck
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Originally Posted by turbo_mikePTT
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Excited to hear about the pdk tune, I have been contemplating it for a while. I would suggest doing the downpipes I did the catless fvd pipes, but it’s still really quiet iMO I will do a resonator delete and see how loud it is after that . Keep us posted on the pdk tune. But honestly it sounds like that panamera may just need to be totaled becaues of all the problems. But good luck
And 600(ish) horsepower is more than enough to get me in trouble for now. |
Originally Posted by turbo_mikePTT
(Post 4782866)
I would suggest doing the downpipes I did the catless fvd pipes, but it’s still really quiet iMO I will do a resonator delete and see how loud it is after that . Keep us posted on the pdk tune.
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Originally Posted by XLR82XS
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I have FVD cat-less as well with the new version Akrapovic. It's really not that loud with the flaps closed and even when flaps open it's civilized and WAILS at WOT. I would suggest not removing the resonator with no cats as it will produce drone while cruising.
Yea good point I really want something on the ridiculous side seeing that I almost never drive the car, was thinking about just a legit straight pipe only tips no muffler but don’t want to remove my PSE just yet. |
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Just did the FVD tune and IPD Plenum on my 2011 PTT and... WOW. The car is so much better to drive, even in standard mode where the sluggishness is completely gone. The sports mode is incredible and Sport plus,... well lets just say it's scary. My only regret is that I wish I had done this 4 years ago when I bought the car. Has anyone any experience with the FVD 200 cell sports cats?
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Interested in the pdk tune as well. Love the headlights I need to find a pair if I can find a reasonable
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Originally Posted by mwvh
(Post 4792297)
Just did the FVD tune and IPD Plenum on my 2011 PTT and... WOW. The car is so much better to drive, even in standard mode where the sluggishness is completely gone. The sports mode is incredible and Sport plus,... well lets just say it's scary. My only regret is that I wish I had done this 4 years ago when I bought the car. Has anyone any experience with the FVD 200 cell sports cats?
I had the 200-cell cats and ended up going cat-less. Much better GROWL and spool. It also just wanted loud enough, even with and aftermarket exhaust, to provide that "bark" and exhaust popping that I love. So my 2011 is FVD cat-less with Akrapovic gen.2 and it sounds ABSOLUTELY GLORIOUS. |
Originally Posted by mwvh
(Post 4792297)
Just did the FVD tune and IPD Plenum on my 2011 PTT and... WOW. The car is so much better to drive, even in standard mode where the sluggishness is completely gone. The sports mode is incredible and Sport plus,... well lets just say it's scary. My only regret is that I wish I had done this 4 years ago when I bought the car. Has anyone any experience with the FVD 200 cell sports cats?
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Originally Posted by XLR82XS
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Right?! ECU tune needs to be installed when new - forget driving it stock! ;-)
I had the 200-cell cats and ended up going cat-less. Much better GROWL and spool. It also just wanted loud enough, even with and aftermarket exhaust, to provide that "bark" and exhaust popping that I love. So my 2011 is FVD cat-less with Akrapovic gen.2 and it sounds ABSOLUTELY GLORIOUS. |
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