Substantially better?

Also depends on what model/trim within the product range. This in itself is debatable among enthusiasts with different criteria.

To me - the 911 C2 is junk. The range should start at the GTS, Turbo, then GT3/2 appropriately. So If I were to answer the question - is there something substantially better than a 911 Turbo? I'd say no.

If the question were - is there another car substantially better than a 911 C2? Yes... Goodness, yes.

 

Nicely said...

 

Porsche purists would argue against this, but even a $85K Nissan GTR would blow away even the 911 turbo. The styling is polar opposite of 911's, plus the drive feel makes it not a popular alternative amongst the Porsche crowd. But if I had the dough I'd own both.

 

Really? The 911 C2 is JUNK? Seriously? They miss you on the Nissan threads. Go troll over there.

 

No doubt the GT-R puts down supercar performance numbers, but most people who've driven it (I haven't) say that it's a somewhat sterile car to drive, lacking the subjective fun factor. The most common reason given is that the GT-R's computer co-pilot is doing a lot of the driving for you.

Personally, I'd rather do the driving myself, even if that means I'm slower. This issue mirrors the manual vs PDK debate ... I went with manual.

 

I drove many variants of the 911 before settling on a C2S cab, including the C2 and Turbo. I found all of them similar enough to be grouped together, and didn't see enough difference to call the C2 "junk" while calling the Turbo essentially unsurpassed (unless the only criterion is acceleration).

 

Yea, driving the piece of junk C2 well actually involves some driving skill.

 

If you want people to tell you what you want to hear, ask your question on Porsche forum.

I bet if you ask the same question on the ferrari, lambo, or bugatti forum, many of those owners probably have driven a 911 and could give you an honest answer.

 

Understood, but I'm hoping to hear from people in this forum who have driven the 911 as well as the other cars.

I agree that there are probably plenty of guys in the Bugatti forum who would say that Porsche is crap.

 

How more obnoxious, arrogant and off-putting can one be? Will you, in any car of your choice, do better than a good driver of a C2 on the same track?

 

Yep. Exactly as he said, though I suspect you can get a nice mid-pack car for as little as 14k or 15k in one of the formulas that rely on inexpensive street engines. For sheer fun, a mid-pack car is all you need.

Gary

 

Very well stated.

+1 ... How many better cars are there than a bog standard Carrera ? Some people need to realize that there is more to motoring than sheer speed and there is more to an automobile than just horsepower.

 

Is this guy for real? This is j/k, right?

 

Look at his screen name suffix and avatar...

 

+1. Base C2 is more than enough car for 99% of drivers on the street and more than capable with competent driver on the track.

In regards to the OP's question, I've driven Gallardo, GTR, M6, SL63 AMG, M3 and they all have their positives. Gallardo is a beast and has mad torque but I was not a huge fan of E-gear. I hear new E-gear is better, I don't know why Lambo doesn't use Audi DSG. 911 is good as daily driver while still being a race car. Very few other cars (R8, GTR) offer this flexibility.