I read it and see nothing wrong with it.... But I think some children here need a time out or a good spanking....

OH yeah here are my thoughts about this last page.

 

Wow, you are really showing your true color in this thread! I am not the "PCA Secretary." If you know how to read I am the Kentucky Region PCA Secretary. If you have ever been to a regional PCA event you would know what that entails outside of the drinking and BSing.

I am fully aware of Markski's products and my tune is not a Promotive variant that he resells. Anyone can throw some pipes together and call it an exhaust or resell other products. It is the person behind the company that makes the difference.

I am done trying to "communicate" with you. You obviously have some beef and just trying to use this thread as a springboard to try to get some traction for your "cause." That is pretty sad.

 

Im not even going to go there... whatever your on it must be really good... enjoy the trip...
Im sure you think I made up my jet lag "excuse"... I traveled a lot 2 prior days... not that it matters, unfortunately I looked at the wrong color coded line with arrows ( blue and red on that ebc drawing)... thank you for pointing out my mistake so graciously AGAIN... your right every time... BTW, I talked over email as that member got a hold of me and I explained it 2 days before that drawing was published correctly... And Mark, well he wanted to hang out when he is in Chicago, beer etc. that type of thing... Im guessing a thank you for just answering calls and emails when he had issues. I did not think that one picture of a few "raw" parts in question that Mark pointed out ( not the whole exhaust like you stated) would cause such a big deal... I guess I was wrong... Again....
BTW, long before this thread was started Mark gave me the opportunity to make the exhaust for him( we mutuality agreed not to go thru with the project)... so I am not angry nor POed that he did his version... I'm glad he is building his own... I meant every word of it...
Most of your comments towards me are demeaning and questionable, you remind me of some FOX news commentators that have nothing to loose and everything to gain...
I refuse to argue and stoop to your level... good luck and here is my boarding pass, yes I really really was abroad and did not sleep for 2 days... I took a few minutes out of the day to actually scan it, upload it, and post it just for you... so you don't think Im just pushing my exhausts...
sorry for taking up space on this thread Mark, I really did not mean it in a negative way... in any way....

 

I don't get it. So what? What is wrong with that post?

 

We all have mixed opinions when vendors post in members' threads. Please be courteous, take the high road, and keep this thread about prodigymb's custom built exhaust.

Thanks.

bob

 

I vote for the people who have issues with Markski not air them here and the OP to continue this thread on topic. This Isn't some cut throat community and we are not lions looking to jump on the first vendor who we have issue with. Why are we doing this with markski? If you don't want markski to post in your thread, don't mention him and his product! Can we put egos aside here? I just want this thread to help me when I do my exhaust build. How is this helping the people looking to build an exhaust?

 

AnywAy...I'm gonna stay out for sure. How many man hours you guess on the exhaust?

 

all i said was that we used bigger oval mufflers and what you used looked like pre-muffler resonator which yields a louder product that sounds fantastic and a lot of people are after. just so we are clear i did not mean to insinuate that bigger is better ( although thats what she said ). Bigger is quieter if using quality parts - is really the only thing I was alluding to. After first start up my exhaust is actually very very quiet - especially for a 3". Much quieter then any true 3" I've heard in person or video. on a side note i was not the first to refer to your exhuast, one of your cheerleaders jokingly suggested we got the X-pipe from you. which could be take as a compliment or as an insinuation that the fabricator is unable to make one of similar craftsmanship.

as far as the emails go - i am actually REALLY surprised you would bring that up here since it doesnt pertain to this discussion at all. i appreciate the help you provided on my pressure testing situation. you help a BUNCH of people here "for free" right? out of them maybe 20% are your customers, i happen to actually be one of them.... so i would have never expected that to be rubbed in my face


it has nothing to do with who tuned my car. its not like i asked markski to help diagnose a tune problem. he helped me find a check valve that was leaking in process of chasing a code that is actually caused by something else and Dave@EPL figured that part out. next time i help people on the forum i'll include a paypal account at the end of my post ... so they can paypal me for my help.

thanks Val !

I DO want Markski posting in my thread, with courtesy and on topic though and not go into a PAGE long explanation about his product and how it's made etc. It's unnecessary, it's advertising in my thread (whether your eyes are open to see it is up to you). If he did not like that that i called his mufflers - resonators. He could have just posted "They are actually small hand made mufflers " and we could have carried on. Do you see my point??? Is that too much to ask?

The fact that i said mufflers we used were larger then yours was not a insult or a diss to you !!! It was just a factual statement since people already started comparing the system to yours, naturally due to visual resemblances. I was going for a quieter maximum performance system and therefore we went with larger mufflers.

The 2nd part is correct. I do not think I need to comment on that here, just like I do not think you needed to rub your help in my face. BTW a respected member sent me a handful of PMs on your fuel pump kit asking me for my feedback etc. I took my time giving positive feedback, install tips etc - and this isn't the first time, or that I recommened it to 2 friends who will be getting it within next few months. Using your logic - should I be paid commission ???? LOL

my comment to you was not hostile given our prior converstations you should have known that, your cheerleaders may not. i simply asked you not to mix my new exhaust project thread into a for sale thread for your exhaust - just respect and courtesy.

I welcome Markskis posts and everyone elses posts. Despite what a few people think Markski and I have a good standing realtionship with zero beef even though my car was tuned by the other camp

However I (along with ALOT of other people who follow this thread, friends who arent forum members) thought he was steering this thread offtopic, first the magnaflow crap then with a rant how he builds his own mufflers. Just like I would with anyone else I said what was on mind. Im sorry I got the fan club rialed up, you can holster your keyboards.

 

40+ I believe. Not including the true-dual 3" tips we decided to make last night which are going to be tough...

 

Not to seem rude or criticize, cause I like what you are doing, but it would seem that the time and parts cost would exceed that of what vendors are offering for a similar setup.

40 hours at $75 an hour (which is probably on the low side) is $3000 and then add in parts - probably at least $500-1000.

Just curious as to the route you took and why...

 

easy - its the first 911 turbo full exhaust he has made. so measurements had to be taken, testing things, designing the X pipe, tips etc etc etc. repeat system will take less time. make sense?

 

Yep, I just assumed it was a one-off, but if it is R&D for production than makes sense.

 

I was going to say hope you're making a jig.

 

Yeh I agree since it's the first one it would be much longer and that's how it's going to be with mine. Parts was about 1300-1500 for me but i do have about $600 in Vbands. Guy is a buddy of mine so he seems OK with $500 labor and all the beer he can stand. JIG for sure!!

 

I always liked that fact that it is there because of you and is there the way you wanted it. It is not a me too part but one of this is like this because I wanted this or that to sound or perform like this. More power to you. Making all those miters and segmented cut is very time consuming and tricky. Money well spent and looking forward for your next mod.