I hope this is OK to post here, I need some advice and need it swiftly as I need to either pony up or step aside. My Nissan dealer called me and offered me a Nissan GTR (one of 2 they are getting in) based on a call I made to a handfull of local dealers a few months back...car should be here in June..... price offered is firm at 10K over MSRP. I just bought a 997 last month but not sure I want to pass up this offer. I am a bit nervous to shell out 70+K for the car then 10K over then sales tax etc....another 4K , we are north of 85K at this point when you add the other costs. What if I just don't like it, can I sell it and get my money back on a private sale? I know this is the "for sale section" but if I don't like the car this would be the first place I think I would list it hoping it went to another true car enthusiast and all...... please advise????????? I need to do 1K down asap by close of business or they call the next on the list, I have an in with the dealer a bit based on a relationship I have. thanks again....

 

Just my 2 cents but if you really want it badly and money isn't an issue then buy it. The GTR is going to be in short supply for at least 8-12 months.

However, if you don't want to take a blood bath in depreciation in year 2 then just wait. Personally I just can't see myself paying a huge premium on a mass produced vehicle. In 2-3 years pick a clean nicely modded one for up to 30-40% off MSRP.

 

It should be a killer car....but, there just no way in hell I'd pay 10K over MSRP for a freakin Nissan.

A dealer here in Atl was offering theirs for list and refused to gouge the customers.

 

Thanks for the note.... wow nice dealer... most dealers are getting two cars at most and thats aftyer they pony up 30K to become a GTR cert dealer, they need to make up the funds from what I have learned.... some dealers trying to do it with one car charging 25K over msrp....insane, until we see them going for 40K over after released, then I will be crying!!!

thanks for the feedback

 

You have PM

 

$10k is on the higher end of most over MSRP deals. I've seen the lowest premium at $3k and the highest at $50k. Depends if you really want it that bad as people have suggested, they will be in short supply, that is a certain.

"Mass produced" is a little strong for a car they're only bringing 1500 examples of into the US. I think you'll find dealers who do sell at MSRP will have huge waitings lists that probably won't be fulfilled while those charging a minimal amount (say $2.5-5k) will be selling cars without a problem and those in the $10k or more premium will find the occasional sucker here and there but risk having showroom fixtures.

For a car with the performance figures and overall praise of the media, I think ground floor is disappearing. Once these start showing up on the roads stateside prices will mostly increase as demand certainly will. Only you can figure out if $10k is worth it to you to be the first kid on the block.

 

Sounds like a crazy price to me when compared to a car like woolyg's 02 x50 with low miles and k24's for 72 asking.

 

Rumor has it that Nissan can void your warranty if the car is sold within a year after being purchased. This is their way of slowing down people from flipping the GT-R for a crazy profit..

 

Tough decision . Questions to ponder --

1)Do you buy the C2S and into a facelift Vs the new car on the block touted to have comparable ability to a 997tt ?

2)What types of Ecu restrictions might exist on the Gtr ?

3) Will the average Nissan technician be able to repair a new technological problem ?

If you don't like the car and pay over MSRP for it you may recover more than you think on resale if unhappy . Unless the car was problematic and with any new car it's a possibility.

I have read quite a bit on the car . Back in 1989 the auto journalists praised the 300Zxtt as being a (paraphrasing) "Porsche beater" . I bought one and loved the car , however there were many little details about the car which lacked the build quality of Porsche . For instance the interior had to be customized , the car had a blind spot, and simple details made the Nissan very different from Porsche .

Owning a car goes beyond track numbers too and it's really up to you to decide is the novelty worth the risk of so many unknowns ?

Sight unseen I would buy the Porsche . If price was the issue I would buy the C2S . It's a great car.

If I was disturbed about the performance of the C2S in comparision to the Gtr ---I might look at used Turbo because into the weakened economy Turbo pricing has softened .

That's just my opinion . I would wish you well with whatever car you decide.

 

I should have added some extra detail, I just bought a 997, not planning on replcing it but just getting the GTR as an all out FUN ***** out car, tremoundous power, insane stats and perf, in a striaght line or in the turns etc.... some said just go buy a 997TT, but why would I do that when I have the build quality, lines, heritage, perf, quality, comfort ++++ of my 997, a 997TT is near double the price from the GTR (Ok when you take away the 10K premium if I do it) and from whats been seen and written the 997TT does not deliver 2X the performance but actually seems to fall short from the GTR. Its a tough call, lot of thinking......

points well made and well taken so thank you.... the biggest one I want to know would be this the fact if I can recoup my costs if I don't love it....I am not as worried about problems and it being first year out etc... the world is watching Nissan with this car and believe extra specail attention was put into the details.... lets hope...

 

your correct but also correct is that it was just a rumor.....

 

I can awser 2 and 3,for you.

2. the ECU restriction or going to be hard to get around, because of fact that the first thing that japanese tuner try to crack and it void your warranty, Also the speed is limited to 155mph. (Top Gear)

3. Not your avgerage nissan tech can work on these cars, The Dealer payes 50k in order to sell the car. This incudles sending a couple of techs to training. And for special equipment to work on the cars.(Nissan Dealer in Georgia)

 

correct but I heard it was 30K not 50K, almost sure its 30K for a nisaan dealer to be a cert GTR Nissan dealer and yes the costs goes to parts needed to work on the GTR, training of the techs etc... most dealers only getting 2-3 cars that are opting for this and based on that hard to make up the 30K costs thus heard this is what they are using to justify the mark up... not saying I agree just wnat I have larend through research...

 

That just what he told me. You good could be right to. Maybe he was telling me that for justifing his mark up.

 

Mickfluff - buy what you can afford and if you buy be able to lose money and not get hurt. Kinda like going to Vegas hoping to not lose money. Be prepared to lose and if you don't then you enjoyed the trip/ride. Otherwise stick with what you have and wait for someone else to that the depreciation.

If any one of us can predict future values with 100% accuracy then none of us would need to worry about money or depreciation.

Go with what you feel and base your decision on that alone. Brando is correct in the dealership in Roswell, GA is seling at MSRP for 10K down now. Good luck with your decision!