2005 Porsche Carrera Engine Failure
#31
A 997S 3.8L engine, new (not rebuilt) runs $14k. Expect another $2k in labor.
CATTMAN
#32
CATTMAN
#33
proper rebuild is apparently about of $6-$10K in parts plus 100 hours of labor.
if you cannot do labor yourself then it renders whole rebuild strategy pointless from financial perspective.
only people who do rebuilds are racing shops as they do their own work and mostly attend upper engine parts without splitting the case. if internal damage is extensive enough like bearings, IMS, etc - no one even opens this thing.
i bet as 997 cars get older there will be more enthusiasts who will work on their own but right now number of pro shops who can and know how to repair m96/m97 engines is very limited and prices are, well, astronomical.
if you cannot do labor yourself then it renders whole rebuild strategy pointless from financial perspective.
only people who do rebuilds are racing shops as they do their own work and mostly attend upper engine parts without splitting the case. if internal damage is extensive enough like bearings, IMS, etc - no one even opens this thing.
i bet as 997 cars get older there will be more enthusiasts who will work on their own but right now number of pro shops who can and know how to repair m96/m97 engines is very limited and prices are, well, astronomical.
#34
2005 996 C4S needs new engine
I found out a few hours ago that cylinder #2 has a cracked wall and I need a new engine. Car has 40K miles, few track days, now needs new engine. Not a happy camper. Just thought I'd share my experience.
#35
the issue is much wider spread than we know. mileage isn't really an issue with the intermediate shaft. evidently many failed very early on in ownership and were covered under the standard warranty's. porsche has dealt with the issue on an individual basis owner-by-owner, sometimes helping people out in some way, but more often, no help. this is my 6th and last porsche. i cancelled the order of my 2012 carrera.
#36
i offered some time ago people in the forum to contact PCNA and headquaters of Porsche regarding all that - in response most people only sneer and no one really cares, so, that is why most folks will have to shell out their own money for what would be a massive recall and free replace in case of Honda, Toyota, etc.
#37
i offered some time ago people in the forum to contact PCNA and headquaters of Porsche regarding all that - in response most people only sneer and no one really cares, so, that is why most folks will have to shell out their own money for what would be a massive recall and free replace in case of Honda, Toyota, etc.
CATTMAN
#38
the issue is much wider spread than we know. mileage isn't really an issue with the intermediate shaft. evidently many failed very early on in ownership and were covered under the standard warranty's. porsche has dealt with the issue on an individual basis owner-by-owner, sometimes helping people out in some way, but more often, no help. this is my 6th and last porsche. i cancelled the order of my 2012 carrera.
#39
porsche should just do a recall and place a revised set of parts, rather than watch one fail at a time.
Sheesh, even BMW called my M3 in to replace the main bearings "just in case" and then extended the warranty to 100K miles on "any part that is lubricated with engine oil".
Sheesh, even BMW called my M3 in to replace the main bearings "just in case" and then extended the warranty to 100K miles on "any part that is lubricated with engine oil".
#40
Wow, that is terrible! What was the issue that made you aware there was a problem? Is it related to the IMS that the OP brought up? What do they do to fix that?
#41
Oil analysis is definitely a good idea for any high end car, particularly ones with this known failure mode. I purchased a 2005 997 S this spring and have been keeping track ever since.
I also proactively installed the LN Engineering IMS retrofit kit, which has a two year warranty attached to it from them. The porsche dealer did the install, which actually puts them on the hook as well. I hope to never have an issue.
I also proactively installed the LN Engineering IMS retrofit kit, which has a two year warranty attached to it from them. The porsche dealer did the install, which actually puts them on the hook as well. I hope to never have an issue.
#42
I thought they had these issues sorted out in the early 996/Boxster motors. PCNA does not seem to want to admit they have an ongoing issue with defective engines. For awhile first gen V-8 M3 motors were coming apart and BMW put a 100,000 warranty on all of them.
#43
Oil analysis is definitely a good idea for any high end car, particularly ones with this known failure mode. I purchased a 2005 997 S this spring and have been keeping track ever since.
I also proactively installed the LN Engineering IMS retrofit kit, which has a two year warranty attached to it from them. The porsche dealer did the install, which actually puts them on the hook as well. I hope to never have an issue.
I also proactively installed the LN Engineering IMS retrofit kit, which has a two year warranty attached to it from them. The porsche dealer did the install, which actually puts them on the hook as well. I hope to never have an issue.
For the OP, I really feel for you and would love to see Porsche step up and take care of this failure!!
#44
But, alas, this is probably why I'm not a billionaire with Porsche for a last name!
#45
recently I had a big scare, initially I though my engine went kaboom, it turned out to be ignition coils. When I was waiting for the diagnosis, I called porsche to see how much a new engine was, its around 22K plus about 2.5k to install.
They do not care, nor will they contribute anything to it.
I have to say I was very disappointed with the company. As someone here mentioned, when I bought my 01M3, they had a similar issue with engines blowing up. But (a very big but) BMW has a recall, which they performed for free, cost around 5k.
General public is not aware that porsche brand has any of these issues.
After having this scare, the engine blow up is on my mind now.
They do not care, nor will they contribute anything to it.
I have to say I was very disappointed with the company. As someone here mentioned, when I bought my 01M3, they had a similar issue with engines blowing up. But (a very big but) BMW has a recall, which they performed for free, cost around 5k.
General public is not aware that porsche brand has any of these issues.
After having this scare, the engine blow up is on my mind now.