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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 07:09 PM
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Years ago I had a Cayenne Turbo with keyless (the black dummy key).
I never had any problems and not something people would notice from the outside.
But to answer the question - the dummy key could be removed (not sure if its the same with the 991) but if you are thinking about removing it the whole point of the keyless system falls apart!
Don't worry, the system works great and you will all love the keyless feature!
 
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Originally Posted by Fnulli997tt
Years ago I had a Cayenne Turbo with keyless (the black dummy key).
I never had any problems and not something people would notice from the outside.
But to answer the question - the dummy key could be removed (not sure if its the same with the 991) but if you are thinking about removing it the whole point of the keyless system falls apart!
Don't worry, the system works great and you will all love the keyless feature!
Wait, if you remove the key then you can't unlock the doors and lock the doors without pushing the button on the key?
 
Old Mar 15, 2012 | 07:25 PM
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If you remove the dummy key your car will act as a car without the keyless feature. In other words you'll need your real key to start/stop the engine etc.

When you'll see and try the system you'll love it so don't worry ;-)

Basically the system acts the same way as fx. the start/stop button you'll find in a Mercedes. Only difference is that you TURN a dummy key instead on PUSHING a metal button!
 
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Originally Posted by Fnulli997tt
If you remove the dummy key your car will act as a car without the keyless feature. In other words you'll need your real key to start/stop the engine etc.

When you'll see and try the system you'll love it so don't worry ;-)

Basically the system acts the same way as fx. the start/stop button you'll find in a Mercedes. Only difference is that you TURN a dummy key instead on PUSHING a metal button!




lol that is just.....weird?
 
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Weird? Absolutely!
Buy isn't it also weird that the ignition is on the left? LOL
 
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Why do I have visions of Homer Simpson slapping his head and exclaiming "doop"? You would think that putting the start/stop button on the left would be historically reminiscent enough. Those wacky German engineers! I wonder if the 991 has automatic headlights. My 997.2 did not. I find it hysterical that you can't buy a 20K Subaru without automatic headlights but the $111,000.00 list sports car only offered it as an option.
 
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Yep this why i didn't go for the full premium package... in a cab it's asking for trouble...
If it was like in the Benz where I have a key which effectively has been shaped into a push button... than that's one thing (it looks/feels cheap though) but having a dummy key (which looks like a key )... no very smart on Porsche's part.

Even with a real permanent button like in the Aston Martin (that one looks great, made out of crystal) it's asking for trouble... some of my mates and I like to play tricks on each other (bunch of big kids).
Once while sitting on the terrace (hitting on the waitress ) one of my friends went to start my car (push button, cab) and drove it around the side putting it in another parking spot... he had seen it on Top Gear and thought he'd try it out... bugger!)
Ya cant get far... but the fact someone can start your car and drive it at all (when the key is within 200 yards) is disconcerting, not to mention whom ever does this will do so with the intent of stealing it (possably not knowing about the range thing) and your ride won't be in the parking lot but in the middle of the street when it gets out of range and stalls...

On a good note... I did end up getting the number of that hottie (the power of making a woman laugh)

BTW... if you have your car in your garage or in front of your house (anywhere withing range of the key) the system remains active and drains your batteries (changed mine 6 times in 3 months...) before I figured out what was happening (dealer didn't have a clue!)

Cheers!
 
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Originally Posted by Psycho Sid
Yep this why i didn't go for the full premium package... in a cab it's asking for trouble...
If it was like in the Benz where I have a key which effectively has been shaped into a push button... than that's one thing (it looks/feels cheap though) but having a dummy key (which looks like a key )... no very smart on Porsche's part.

Even with a real permanent button like in the Aston Martin (that one looks great, made out of crystal) it's asking for trouble... some of my mates and I like to play tricks on each other (bunch of big kids).
Once while sitting on the terrace (hitting on the waitress ) one of my friends went to start my car (push button, cab) and drove it around the side putting it in another parking spot... he had seen it on Top Gear and thought he'd try it out... bugger!)
Ya cant get far... but the fact someone can start your car and drive it at all (when the key is within 200 yards) is disconcerting, not to mention whom ever does this will do so with the intent of stealing it (possably not knowing about the range thing) and your ride won't be in the parking lot but in the middle of the street when it gets out of range and stalls...

On a good note... I did end up getting the number of that hottie (the power of making a woman laugh)

BTW... if you have your car in your garage or in front of your house (anywhere withing range of the key) the system remains active and drains your batteries (changed mine 6 times in 3 months...) before I figured out what was happening (dealer didn't have a clue!)

Cheers!
That is a really good point - you mean when the car in the garage and the fob/real key is the house you are draining the battery! That's a major weakness of this system if you are correct.
 
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That is a really good point - you mean when the car in the garage and the fob/real key is the house you are draining the battery! That's a major weakness of this system if you are correct.
So I need a lead lined box in my office and at home to store my key, like Kryptonite?
 
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That is a really good point - you mean when the car in the garage and the fob/real key is the house you are draining the battery! That's a major weakness of this system if you are correct.
Yup, that's exactly what I mean.
Worst part is that I took the Benz in 3 times to have them find/fix the problem... (dealer changed the receiver unit, key-fob etc..) and basically told me I there was no problem (could not find any).

Had to figure it out myself .
 
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So I need a lead lined box in my office and at home to store my key, like Kryptonite?
hahaha... yeah that or just remove the dummy key .
 
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And I just recalled, I had my last Porsche for less than a year. Mathis was not a particularly cold winter here in NJ, yet the battery died. Porsche would not replace it because I had not driven the car more than 2,500 miles that year (atbthebtime I had only had it 6 months) so they considered it a storage issue, not a defect. I had to pay $300.
 
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hahaha... yeah that or just remove the dummy key .
I think there is a dummy for sure, but he/she/they are in Germany!
 
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And I just recalled, I had my last Porsche for less than a year. Mathis was not a particularly cold winter here in NJ, yet the battery died. Porsche would not replace it because I had not driven the car more than 2,500 miles that year (atbthebtime I had only had it 6 months) so they considered it a storage issue, not a defect. I had to pay $300.
Ok just to clarify, I'm talking about the key-fob battery though.
I don't think the car battery will be drained much as the key-fob drains way before car battery does.
 
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Don't get me wrong and I'm not saying anybody is lying but... The years I owned my Cayenne Turbo I NEVER had any problems with the keyless system. And honestly, no problem with any battery getting drained neither!

Regarding the situation with some friends moving the car I really don't understand this!
Was the car locked? All I know is that when you lock the car you can't even open it unless you are like very very close to the car! My wife often complained about her waiting a couple of seconds before she could get in if I was just a couple of steps behind her!
Maybe if you don't lock your car you can then start the car as long as you are nearby! Buy this is also possible in a Mercedes - I have several of times tried to get dropped off by my wife and she then takes off only to have her on the phone 30 sec later telling me that the car is warning her that no key is found (in 30 sec you can drive quite a distance actually) :-)
 


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