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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 08:46 AM
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You can't relay on pictures or video: you have to see the paint in various lighting to determine how well you like it.

That's why I think white, black, yellow and red are no-brainers: there's no metallic highlights and what you see is what you get. It's when you get into the metallic silvers, grays, browns and blues that lighting makes all the difference in the world so there's no substitute for seeing paint in person and in various lighting. This is what caused Suzy to cancel her 911_50 because she saw the car in person and wasn't in love with the paint.

Ordering a car in a paint color you've only seen online or in a showroom sample is like buying a mailorder bride. Pretty risky, IMO.
 
Old Jun 25, 2013 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Suzy991
I've been to the dealership today where I've canceld the 911-50 and changed the C4S cab in a C4S coupe in rhodiumsilver with agate interior and silver deviated stitching. Traded my Audi Q5 for it, so the C4S will be owned by my company. (That way I don't have to pay VAT). Our privat car is probably going to be a Boxster but we're not completely sure about that yet.

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Not sure if you have done so but participating in psds (porsche sport driving driving school) will definitely make choosing which porsche model to buy become a lot easier.

PS: yachting blue interior with peble grey stiching looks spectacular combined with silver exterior.
 
Old Jun 25, 2013 | 08:49 AM
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 09:03 AM
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Not sure if you have done so but participating in psds (porsche sport driving driving school) will definitely make choosing which porsche model to buy become a lot easier.

PS: yachting blue interior with peble grey stiching looks spectacular combined with silver exterior.
I've not participated in PSDS, but I've had some testdrives in different models.
Short testdrive (30-45 min.): C2, C4 and C2S cab
Long testdrive (whole day): C4S

I base my decision more on looks though. Personally I like the C4S most with its wide hips and lightbar between the rearlights. Went initially for the cab, because I also ordered a 911-50 coupe, but I canceld that one, so went back to my original plan of a C4S coupe. And not to forget, AWD comes in pretty handy here in Switzerland, especially in winter. The car will be my daily driver.

Regarding the blue interior...
Personally I don't like blue interiors. I went for the Agate because it has a warmer feel than black. Espresso would be very nice too, but it doesn't really match with the Rhodium silver that I really wanted. Espresso matches much better with the GT-silver. (Fester's car is a beautiful example of that)

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Originally Posted by Suzy991
I've not participated in PSDS, but I've had some testdrives in different models.
Short testdrive (30-45 min.): C2, C4 and C2S cab
Long testdrive (whole day): C4S

I base my decision more on looks though. Personally I like the C4S most with its wide hips and lightbar between the rearlights. Went initially for the cab, because I also ordered a 911-50 coupe, but I canceld that one, so went back to my original plan of a C4S coupe. And not to forget, AWD comes in pretty handy here in Switzerland, especially in winter. The car will be my daily driver.

Regarding the blue interior...
Personally I don't like blue interiors. I went for the Agate because it has a warmer feel than black. Espresso would be very nice too, but it doesn't really match with the Rhodium silver that I really wanted. Espresso matches much better with the GT-silver. (Fester's car is a beautiful example of that)

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I've read your previous posts, you choose well on 4S for winter, that car is hard to skid even with PSM off, 1st gear, and diesel pour into the track.

About psds, you'll be forced to drive the car "differently", you will know the limit of each car and how to get the most out of it.

I hate yachting blue as well, but with peble grey stiching combined with GT silver I saw, it suits very well. But yes, I still prefer black/carrera red that only available on turbo s.
 
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Originally Posted by Suzy991
I've not participated in PSDS, but I've had some testdrives in different models.
Short testdrive (30-45 min.): C2, C4 and C2S cab
Long testdrive (whole day): C4S

I base my decision more on looks though. Personally I like the C4S most with its wide hips and lightbar between the rearlights. Espresso matches much better with the GT-silver. (Fester's car is a beautiful example of that)

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Suzy991: hallelujah! What a great choice or should I say you've got a very fine taste for automobiles !!
 
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Nice detailed pics. But it's an affirmation of me not liking the 50th. This color is exactly the same as my late granny's cooking pots. And I don't like the retro touches on this undeniably modern 991. I don't care for the wheels either, even less now I see the black seems matte.
 
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The more I see, the less I like. I've hated the wheels from the beginning and now think the side mirrors look way too modern to go on a retro car. The foregoing plus the paucity of paint colors all add up to a big zero in my book. I think Porsche will have a hard time selling all 1963 units and that they will depreciate even faster than the regular models.
 
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Must admit did not like it much on first glance, but it is beginning to grow on me. I like the color and the wheels, though agree with Sanibel on the mirrors, they do not look right on the car. I think it is a nice blend of the old and new.
 
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Originally Posted by SanibelSpeed
The more I see, the less I like. I've hated the wheels from the beginning and now think the side mirrors look way too modern to go on a retro car. The foregoing plus the paucity of paint colors all add up to a big zero in my book. I think Porsche will have a hard time selling all 1963 units and that they will depreciate even faster than the regular models.
I have to agree, IMO it doesn't appear that Porsche did much if any market research to identify what loyal Porsche customers really wanted to see offered to the market for this 50th anniversary model. Nothing about it really jumps out and bites you that you have got to purchase this once in a lifetime offering. I am also wondering if this 50th model wasn't really designed more for the Asian and East European markets where there is a lot of cash, big egos and a rapidly growing luxury car market.

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Old Jun 26, 2013 | 07:46 AM
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I have to agree, IMO it doesn't appear that Porsche did much if any market research to identify what loyal Porsche customers really wanted to see offered to the market for this 50th anniversary model. Nothing about it really jumps out and bites you that you have got to purchase this once in a lifetime offering. I am also wondering if this 50th model wasn't really designed more for the Asian and East European markets where there is a lot of cash, big egos and a rapidly growing luxury car market.

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That could be a very good point you have there. As I've heard, the car sells better in those markets indeed. My salesman told me that there are only 18 cars sold yet in Switzerland. That is not even 1% of the 1963 they want to build. That's a very disapointing number, considering there a lot of wealthy people in Switzerland. Generally Porsche sells well here.

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Nice detailed pics. But it's an affirmation of me not liking the 50th. This color is exactly the same as my late granny's cooking pots. And I don't like the retro touches on this undeniably modern 991. I don't care for the wheels either, even less now I see the black seems matte.
I love my factory gloss black painted CS wheels until I've seen light scratches on them. Now I'm beginning to realise the advantage of matte black color for wheels. Not that they are superior, but definitely have advantage that gloss could not provide and vice versa.
 
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I have to agree, IMO it doesn't appear that Porsche did much if any market research to identify what loyal Porsche customers really wanted to see offered to the market for this 50th anniversary model. Nothing about it really jumps out and bites you that you have got to purchase this once in a lifetime offering. I am also wondering if this 50th model wasn't really designed more for the Asian and East European markets where there is a lot of cash, big egos and a rapidly growing luxury car market.

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Ouchhh, as if driving porsche doesn't show one's ego already (j/k)
 
Old Jun 26, 2013 | 09:17 AM
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That could be a very good point you have there. As I've heard, the car sells better in those markets indeed. My salesman told me that there are only 18 cars sold yet in Switzerland. That is not even 1% of the 1963 they want to build. That's a very disapointing number, considering there a lot of wealthy people in Switzerland. Generally Porsche sells well here.

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Out of how many slotted for Switzerland? Even if 50 in total, I'll say it is very bad.
FYI, only 11 for Australia, 3 each for Singapore and Indonesia.
 
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Out of how many slotted for Switzerland? Even if 50 in total, I'll say it is very bad.
FYI, only 11 for Australia, 3 each for Singapore and Indonesia.
I don't exactly know how many are slotted for Switzerland to be honest. I have to admit that there are lots of people (especially in Northern Switzerland) that buy their Porsche in Germany and import the car in Switzerland themselves, because it's cheaper. So 18 may be not completely correct for the numbers of cars that will eventually be owned by Swiss citizens...

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