Back Up Camera Options
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Hi guys,
Not sure if my experience pertains to this thread, hopefully it does.
Recently purchased a '14 Panamera, and like the 991, it does NOT have oem back up camera. Unlike the U.S. streets are extremely narrow and parking spots are much smaller, so although sensors are helpful, majority of the people here still like to have images showing up when backing up. After picking up from dealer, I went straight to a car audio shop, and have the following items installed: PCM, PaPaGo Navigation system, back up camera, car camcorder (not sure why many people still don't have this, its cheap, and definitely helps out when accident happens), laser detector, and laser jammer
.
So the audio shop was able to set up the wiring such that back-up image only shows when you put the gear in reverse, as soon as you shift to park, neutral, or drive your display will go back to factory display. Also, they connected my aftermarket navi to one of the least used buttons on the dash, so when I need to use the navi, just need to long press the button (~2 sec.) and the display switches to navigation.
When switched to other displays (back-up camera or navigation) the screen only responds to what I am using (when I am entering address on the screen for navi, things won't go crazy in factory system).
I have to say, my shop did everything so wonderful that one will cannot tell is aftermarket. They used button which is already in your car and wiring directly into the car so you don't even need to do any action to switch to back-up view.
Spent about $3,000 on everything (including labor) but would be only about $1,000 if I only installed PCM and back-up camera.
Not sure if my experience pertains to this thread, hopefully it does.
Recently purchased a '14 Panamera, and like the 991, it does NOT have oem back up camera. Unlike the U.S. streets are extremely narrow and parking spots are much smaller, so although sensors are helpful, majority of the people here still like to have images showing up when backing up. After picking up from dealer, I went straight to a car audio shop, and have the following items installed: PCM, PaPaGo Navigation system, back up camera, car camcorder (not sure why many people still don't have this, its cheap, and definitely helps out when accident happens), laser detector, and laser jammer
. So the audio shop was able to set up the wiring such that back-up image only shows when you put the gear in reverse, as soon as you shift to park, neutral, or drive your display will go back to factory display. Also, they connected my aftermarket navi to one of the least used buttons on the dash, so when I need to use the navi, just need to long press the button (~2 sec.) and the display switches to navigation.
When switched to other displays (back-up camera or navigation) the screen only responds to what I am using (when I am entering address on the screen for navi, things won't go crazy in factory system).
I have to say, my shop did everything so wonderful that one will cannot tell is aftermarket. They used button which is already in your car and wiring directly into the car so you don't even need to do any action to switch to back-up view.
Spent about $3,000 on everything (including labor) but would be only about $1,000 if I only installed PCM and back-up camera.
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I'll post when I receive the camera. Price was $179. $99 more for a CCD type camera. Both the basic and option are color and have night vision. Hooks up to backup light. I'm thinking I'm going to have to take the bumper off so I can run the wires to the camera which is located on the top of the license plate. I'm a little nervous about taking the bumper off, but I hear it's not that difficult.
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I recently purchased a wireless backup camera from TadiBrothers (http://www.tadibrothers.com/Catalog/...-Backup-Camera) that works with an Android or Iphone. It comes with an inexpensive camera so, I upgraded it with a hi-res CCD license plate camera. The system was $179.00 and the upgrade was an additional $90. I have an Android phone so my review will be based on that. Pictures of the installation and operation are provided below. The PDK lever is in reverse:
The instructions are almost useless so I’ll amend them after the review.
The good aspects of the system:
The camera is color and works very well with a clear picture and simulated distance markers. The markers tend to be misleading as to the distance from the object, but if you test it, you will soon understand how far you are from objects. The night feature works well also. Turning it on is easy as well with a single button push. You can hook it up to the rear backing lights but that’s probably not a good idea as will be evident in the shortfall section. The pictures below show the instillation plus operation close to an object and with no object behind the car. As you can see, the rotate function of the phone works with the system.
The system’s shortfall:
This is a Wi-Fi, not hardwire system so the Wi-Fi must be connected to the camera for it to work. My phone automatically scans for the closest Wi-Fi, so it will automatically connect if the power to the camera is on. Therein lies the issue of connecting it to the backup lights. It takes 7-10 seconds for the scanner to find the camera Wi-Fi. Though you can activate the camera app, you will not get a picture until the Wi-Fi is connected. I currently have it hooked to the license plate light, so I turn the light from auto to the parking light position even before I put the key in. That shortens the wait for the camera to come on. Usually it’s only a couple seconds after I start the car. I plan to have it connected up to a hot wire from the engine compartment next time the bumper comes off so I won’t have to use the light switch. There are both video and electric connectors so it should be easy to hook it up so that it can easily be disconnected when the bumper has to be taken off to work on the engine. The system can take jpg pictures and video but I'm not sure how to take advantage of that feature.
Installation amendments:
As mentioned the installation instructions are not complete.
1. The instructions fail to mention the latency issue and indicates you should hook it up to the backup lights. If you do that, no power will be provided to the camera and the Wi-Fi scanner will not find the camera for quite some time.
2. It fails to mention the black and white wires in the package which control the backup distance indicator bars. To have the indication, you simply terminate them with electrical tape. To turn the indicators off, you connect them together and then tape them.
3. Press the setting button and ensure the camera scans for the Wi-Fi.
4. The transmitter and connectors are about ½” thick. They are assuming you are putting them on the other side of the car. I used ½” spacers behind the license plate and 1 ½” stainless screws and simply taped the transmitter to the back of the license plate with Scotch strapping tape. We’ll see how that does over time.
Hope this helps anyone who like me, forgot to order the backup camera option.
ChuckJ
The instructions are almost useless so I’ll amend them after the review.
The good aspects of the system:
The camera is color and works very well with a clear picture and simulated distance markers. The markers tend to be misleading as to the distance from the object, but if you test it, you will soon understand how far you are from objects. The night feature works well also. Turning it on is easy as well with a single button push. You can hook it up to the rear backing lights but that’s probably not a good idea as will be evident in the shortfall section. The pictures below show the instillation plus operation close to an object and with no object behind the car. As you can see, the rotate function of the phone works with the system.
The system’s shortfall:
This is a Wi-Fi, not hardwire system so the Wi-Fi must be connected to the camera for it to work. My phone automatically scans for the closest Wi-Fi, so it will automatically connect if the power to the camera is on. Therein lies the issue of connecting it to the backup lights. It takes 7-10 seconds for the scanner to find the camera Wi-Fi. Though you can activate the camera app, you will not get a picture until the Wi-Fi is connected. I currently have it hooked to the license plate light, so I turn the light from auto to the parking light position even before I put the key in. That shortens the wait for the camera to come on. Usually it’s only a couple seconds after I start the car. I plan to have it connected up to a hot wire from the engine compartment next time the bumper comes off so I won’t have to use the light switch. There are both video and electric connectors so it should be easy to hook it up so that it can easily be disconnected when the bumper has to be taken off to work on the engine. The system can take jpg pictures and video but I'm not sure how to take advantage of that feature.
Installation amendments:
As mentioned the installation instructions are not complete.
1. The instructions fail to mention the latency issue and indicates you should hook it up to the backup lights. If you do that, no power will be provided to the camera and the Wi-Fi scanner will not find the camera for quite some time.
2. It fails to mention the black and white wires in the package which control the backup distance indicator bars. To have the indication, you simply terminate them with electrical tape. To turn the indicators off, you connect them together and then tape them.
3. Press the setting button and ensure the camera scans for the Wi-Fi.
4. The transmitter and connectors are about ½” thick. They are assuming you are putting them on the other side of the car. I used ½” spacers behind the license plate and 1 ½” stainless screws and simply taped the transmitter to the back of the license plate with Scotch strapping tape. We’ll see how that does over time.
Hope this helps anyone who like me, forgot to order the backup camera option.
ChuckJ
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My BMW has the back-up sensor system (great for no-look backing up) and the wife has the camera which is great for backing out of parking spaces with the minivan/SUV on each side and also predicted path virtual markers on the screen showing where you'll end up and estimated distance.
Some cars integrate both, we love them and we're not lazy drivers.
Some cars integrate both, we love them and we're not lazy drivers.
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I recently purchased a wireless backup camera from TadiBrothers (http://www.tadibrothers.com/Catalog/...-Backup-Camera) that works with an Android or Iphone. It comes with an inexpensive camera so, I upgraded it with a hi-res CCD license plate camera. The system was $179.00 and the upgrade was an additional $90. I have an Android phone so my review will be based on that. Pictures of the installation and operation are provided below. The PDK lever is in reverse:
The instructions are almost useless so I’ll amend them after the review.
The good aspects of the system:
The camera is color and works very well with a clear picture and simulated distance markers. The markers tend to be misleading as to the distance from the object, but if you test it, you will soon understand how far you are from objects. The night feature works well also. Turning it on is easy as well with a single button push. You can hook it up to the rear backing lights but that’s probably not a good idea as will be evident in the shortfall section. The pictures below show the instillation plus operation close to an object and with no object behind the car. As you can see, the rotate function of the phone works with the system.
The system’s shortfall:
This is a Wi-Fi, not hardwire system so the Wi-Fi must be connected to the camera for it to work. My phone automatically scans for the closest Wi-Fi, so it will automatically connect if the power to the camera is on. Therein lies the issue of connecting it to the backup lights. It takes 7-10 seconds for the scanner to find the camera Wi-Fi. Though you can activate the camera app, you will not get a picture until the Wi-Fi is connected. I currently have it hooked to the license plate light, so I turn the light from auto to the parking light position even before I put the key in. That shortens the wait for the camera to come on. Usually it’s only a couple seconds after I start the car. I plan to have it connected up to a hot wire from the engine compartment next time the bumper comes off so I won’t have to use the light switch. There are both video and electric connectors so it should be easy to hook it up so that it can easily be disconnected when the bumper has to be taken off to work on the engine. The system can take jpg pictures and video but I'm not sure how to take advantage of that feature.
Installation amendments:
As mentioned the installation instructions are not complete.
1. The instructions fail to mention the latency issue and indicates you should hook it up to the backup lights. If you do that, no power will be provided to the camera and the Wi-Fi scanner will not find the camera for quite some time.
2. It fails to mention the black and white wires in the package which control the backup distance indicator bars. To have the indication, you simply terminate them with electrical tape. To turn the indicators off, you connect them together and then tape them.
3. Press the setting button and ensure the camera scans for the Wi-Fi.
4. The transmitter and connectors are about ½” thick. They are assuming you are putting them on the other side of the car. I used ½” spacers behind the license plate and 1 ½” stainless screws and simply taped the transmitter to the back of the license plate with Scotch strapping tape. We’ll see how that does over time.
Hope this helps anyone who like me, forgot to order the backup camera option.
ChuckJ
The instructions are almost useless so I’ll amend them after the review.
The good aspects of the system:
The camera is color and works very well with a clear picture and simulated distance markers. The markers tend to be misleading as to the distance from the object, but if you test it, you will soon understand how far you are from objects. The night feature works well also. Turning it on is easy as well with a single button push. You can hook it up to the rear backing lights but that’s probably not a good idea as will be evident in the shortfall section. The pictures below show the instillation plus operation close to an object and with no object behind the car. As you can see, the rotate function of the phone works with the system.
The system’s shortfall:
This is a Wi-Fi, not hardwire system so the Wi-Fi must be connected to the camera for it to work. My phone automatically scans for the closest Wi-Fi, so it will automatically connect if the power to the camera is on. Therein lies the issue of connecting it to the backup lights. It takes 7-10 seconds for the scanner to find the camera Wi-Fi. Though you can activate the camera app, you will not get a picture until the Wi-Fi is connected. I currently have it hooked to the license plate light, so I turn the light from auto to the parking light position even before I put the key in. That shortens the wait for the camera to come on. Usually it’s only a couple seconds after I start the car. I plan to have it connected up to a hot wire from the engine compartment next time the bumper comes off so I won’t have to use the light switch. There are both video and electric connectors so it should be easy to hook it up so that it can easily be disconnected when the bumper has to be taken off to work on the engine. The system can take jpg pictures and video but I'm not sure how to take advantage of that feature.
Installation amendments:
As mentioned the installation instructions are not complete.
1. The instructions fail to mention the latency issue and indicates you should hook it up to the backup lights. If you do that, no power will be provided to the camera and the Wi-Fi scanner will not find the camera for quite some time.
2. It fails to mention the black and white wires in the package which control the backup distance indicator bars. To have the indication, you simply terminate them with electrical tape. To turn the indicators off, you connect them together and then tape them.
3. Press the setting button and ensure the camera scans for the Wi-Fi.
4. The transmitter and connectors are about ½” thick. They are assuming you are putting them on the other side of the car. I used ½” spacers behind the license plate and 1 ½” stainless screws and simply taped the transmitter to the back of the license plate with Scotch strapping tape. We’ll see how that does over time.
Hope this helps anyone who like me, forgot to order the backup camera option.
ChuckJ
I guess my question is, would you go this route again? Or recommend it..
There are aspects I like of this, as the install is a lot simpler and cost is fairly low. But it sounds like from your description, it is a less than optimal solution and a bit clumsy.. wifi link up time, having to turn on lights etc...
I think at a minimum, I'd want to route to a hard 12V source in the engine compartment that is hot when the ignition or at least engine is on.
I'm a bit on the fence about having to use my phone.. In some ways it is kinda cool.. since it is basically a web cam and you could have it on all the time. But the down side is that I usually just have my iphone in my pocket while driving and it seems a bit clumsy having to be holding the phone or finding a place to put it so I can see it during backup (I'm not a fan of phone mounts cluttering up my car).
Just curious as to your thoughts in terms of usability so far?
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Thanks for the writeup Chuck.. I'm finally going to get going on the backup as my next project.
I guess my question is, would you go this route again? Or recommend it..
There are aspects I like of this, as the install is a lot simpler and cost is fairly low. But it sounds like from your description, it is a less than optimal solution and a bit clumsy.. wifi link up time, having to turn on lights etc...
I think at a minimum, I'd want to route to a hard 12V source in the engine compartment that is hot when the ignition or at least engine is on.
I'm a bit on the fence about having to use my phone.. In some ways it is kinda cool.. since it is basically a web cam and you could have it on all the time. But the down side is that I usually just have my iphone in my pocket while driving and it seems a bit clumsy having to be holding the phone or finding a place to put it so I can see it during backup (I'm not a fan of phone mounts cluttering up my car).
Just curious as to your thoughts in terms of usability so far?
I guess my question is, would you go this route again? Or recommend it..
There are aspects I like of this, as the install is a lot simpler and cost is fairly low. But it sounds like from your description, it is a less than optimal solution and a bit clumsy.. wifi link up time, having to turn on lights etc...
I think at a minimum, I'd want to route to a hard 12V source in the engine compartment that is hot when the ignition or at least engine is on.
I'm a bit on the fence about having to use my phone.. In some ways it is kinda cool.. since it is basically a web cam and you could have it on all the time. But the down side is that I usually just have my iphone in my pocket while driving and it seems a bit clumsy having to be holding the phone or finding a place to put it so I can see it during backup (I'm not a fan of phone mounts cluttering up my car).
Just curious as to your thoughts in terms of usability so far?
ChuckJ
