The 911R is sold out according to Autoweek and Motortrend. Got an email from both of them this morning. It will have the GT3RS 4.0 liter engine.

 

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...%20Subscribers

I have been hounding sales manager yet he says all have been sold out and he'd be lucky to see one himself. 918 owners were the ones offered to purchase it first

 

So in the context of the argument "it doesn't make financial sense for Porsche to offer a manual GT3/Turbo because only X number of people would buy them", how does it make sense to offer an entirely separate model?

I think Porsche's marketing knows what they are doing -- and that may be the way going forward. Stick shift on high end cars has to be a "limited model" to pump up demand.

 

Prueninger breaking it down for you...

 

 

Awesome! What will it sell for?

 

My guess is close to $350k on the aftermarket (if anyone will part with one).

 

$350?! You really think it'll go that high? I predict something closer to the $200k mark for now.

 

To me, 911 R > GT3 RS (991). And look at the prices on those. They likely won't go that high because I imagine you won't see one for sale.

 

I am hearing around 180k.

 

My price comment was in reference to buying the car from the original owner. I'm hearing there are no open allocations. But yes, sticker is likely around $180.

 

Is it really already sold out due to the 918 people picking them up? As for pricing just go to the build page on Porsche configurator. I don't know what is the point if all allocations are taken.

 

I've tried every Porsche dealer in Canada, and they are all sold out. In most cases they have more on the waiting lists than allocation for individual dealerships. I'm in the auto industry, so even tried my contacts (marketing VP's) for some larger dealer groups, and even they couldn't bump me up the queue.

So sad...

I feel I have myself to blame, as recently I stepped away from the forums - just too busy with work, and completely missed the mark on this one. Had no clue it was going to be in production.

...very hard lesson learned

regarding price, yeah its C$211k (base in Canada)

 

In a time where seemingly all auto manufacturers must succumb to technology that often numbs the driving experience, the 991R stands out a beacon of hope.

BMW had something genuine for 60+ years and then the brand delusion started as a byproduct of targeting increasing market share and they somewhat lost the plot (although the i8 is an homage to BMW core values much like the R but in a different content).

So, thank you to Porsche, its board members, executives, directors - many of them engineers, for reiterating what it ultimately important in a performance car - excitement. I read that Porsche engineers considered downsizing tire widths (relative to GT3/RS perhaps?) on the R to make the handling limits more accessible (a polite way of saying tune down the handling to make it more fun on the road - giving more of a sense of accomplishment when driving hard). I had a 997.2 and now a 991, and the wider front track, and longer wheelbase on the 991 give it so much more planted and stable handling, but... I think that many 911 drivers love that feeling of skittishness and lightness at the front that the 997 had much more of. It made the car more of an 'experience' to drive at low speeds (along with the hydraulic steering, and less taken windshield/dash that's more in your face).

Getting back to the R, of all the limited production cars they have produced, I think this one will stand the test of time and ultimately appreciate more in value.

What an amazing concept and a true accomplishment to get it to production in a world where even the 911 carrera is turbo charged - what what? LOL

DRP

 

This is a very exciting car to me, and everything I want in a Porsche, especially the engine. If only it was accessible!