2017 GTS lease rates?
#16
Hi. I haven't posted on 6-Speed in quite a while. I had a 997 for a while, traded it in and have had a Panamera Turbo for about 5.5 years. I spec'ed it, it's been a great car and I've really enjoyed it, but now I'm feeling the itch for a sports car again. I've decided on Targa 4 GTS in Agate Grey, have added lots of options and the very elegant GTS Interior package, I think it will be a stunner inside and out.
Now, when I explored financing with the dealer, I was stunned that the 36 month lease residual value for 15k miles per year was only 50%. For 10k it increases to 53%. But still super low by lease standards which should be wrapped around 60%. The comment I got was that for the more specialized cars such as the GTS and the Turbos, that the residual assumptions are always depressed. I was very surprised given that I thought they tended to hold their value better.
The conclusion? Leasing a GTS is very expensive and probably not practical. Loan financing rates are still pretty low despite interest rates having risen and it's my plan to finance a portion of the value with a loan.
Hope that helps. Looking forward to the new car. Should arrive second half of May if everything stays on schedule.
Anybody want to buy a lovingly maintained, but 72k mile 2012 Panamera Turbo?
Now, when I explored financing with the dealer, I was stunned that the 36 month lease residual value for 15k miles per year was only 50%. For 10k it increases to 53%. But still super low by lease standards which should be wrapped around 60%. The comment I got was that for the more specialized cars such as the GTS and the Turbos, that the residual assumptions are always depressed. I was very surprised given that I thought they tended to hold their value better.
The conclusion? Leasing a GTS is very expensive and probably not practical. Loan financing rates are still pretty low despite interest rates having risen and it's my plan to finance a portion of the value with a loan.
Hope that helps. Looking forward to the new car. Should arrive second half of May if everything stays on schedule.
Anybody want to buy a lovingly maintained, but 72k mile 2012 Panamera Turbo?
#17
That seems extremely low. However, it does go with something similar my SA told me. He did not have the lease rates when I asked but said the GTS would not have the same lease rates as an S.
Anyone lease a 991.1 that you can share the details with us here?
Anyone lease a 991.1 that you can share the details with us here?
#18
Hi. I haven't posted on 6-Speed in quite a while. I had a 997 for a while, traded it in and have had a Panamera Turbo for about 5.5 years. I spec'ed it, it's been a great car and I've really enjoyed it, but now I'm feeling the itch for a sports car again. I've decided on Targa 4 GTS in Agate Grey, have added lots of options and the very elegant GTS Interior package, I think it will be a stunner inside and out.
Now, when I explored financing with the dealer, I was stunned that the 36 month lease residual value for 15k miles per year was only 50%. For 10k it increases to 53%. But still super low by lease standards which should be wrapped around 60%. The comment I got was that for the more specialized cars such as the GTS and the Turbos, that the residual assumptions are always depressed. I was very surprised given that I thought they tended to hold their value better.
The conclusion? Leasing a GTS is very expensive and probably not practical. Loan financing rates are still pretty low despite interest rates having risen and it's my plan to finance a portion of the value with a loan.
Hope that helps. Looking forward to the new car. Should arrive second half of May if everything stays on schedule.
Anybody want to buy a lovingly maintained, but 72k mile 2012 Panamera Turbo?
Now, when I explored financing with the dealer, I was stunned that the 36 month lease residual value for 15k miles per year was only 50%. For 10k it increases to 53%. But still super low by lease standards which should be wrapped around 60%. The comment I got was that for the more specialized cars such as the GTS and the Turbos, that the residual assumptions are always depressed. I was very surprised given that I thought they tended to hold their value better.
The conclusion? Leasing a GTS is very expensive and probably not practical. Loan financing rates are still pretty low despite interest rates having risen and it's my plan to finance a portion of the value with a loan.
Hope that helps. Looking forward to the new car. Should arrive second half of May if everything stays on schedule.
Anybody want to buy a lovingly maintained, but 72k mile 2012 Panamera Turbo?
#19
i've been looking at the lease rates for a 17 gts, as i'm using the pull ahead for my 15 c2s......the rates are terrible, and they are NOT willing to deal . I've called all over the us, and they all say this is a 'hot' car, and will all be spoke for.
I'm looking at a 17 turbo coupe, only $200 more per month than a gts....they are discounting it quite a bit
I'm looking at a 17 turbo coupe, only $200 more per month than a gts....they are discounting it quite a bit
#20
i've been looking at the lease rates for a 17 gts, as i'm using the pull ahead for my 15 c2s......the rates are terrible, and they are NOT willing to deal . I've called all over the us, and they all say this is a 'hot' car, and will all be spoke for.
I'm looking at a 17 turbo coupe, only $200 more per month than a gts....they are discounting it quite a bit
I'm looking at a 17 turbo coupe, only $200 more per month than a gts....they are discounting it quite a bit
#21
I've explored this recently, and there is an important feature that often gets overlooked -- depreciation. If you lease, the additional amount you pay is really risk insurance for depreciation. If you buy and finance, you take the risk yourself. One accident during the first 3 years could cost you $25,000 if it puts a mark on Carfax. Now you have a "wrecked" vehicle you are trying to sell. Why not make Porsche take that risk, and enjoy your car knowing you can give it back in few years and get a new one?
#22
I've explored this recently, and there is an important feature that often gets overlooked -- depreciation. If you lease, the additional amount you pay is really risk insurance for depreciation. If you buy and finance, you take the risk yourself. One accident during the first 3 years could cost you $25,000 if it puts a mark on Carfax. Now you have a "wrecked" vehicle you are trying to sell. Why not make Porsche take that risk, and enjoy your car knowing you can give it back in few years and get a new one?
ChuckJ
#23
Exactly. I had to use my horn twice in Lowe's parking lot last Saturday ...
A couple of years ago, a lady hit my daughter's car causing about $2,500 in damage. When I went to sell, the mark on the CarFax probably cost me $10k.
On a side note, I've been told that if you ask your insurance carrier, some of them do include a "loss of value" element. A friend did it and got a check for $8k on top of the cost to repair.
A couple of years ago, a lady hit my daughter's car causing about $2,500 in damage. When I went to sell, the mark on the CarFax probably cost me $10k.
On a side note, I've been told that if you ask your insurance carrier, some of them do include a "loss of value" element. A friend did it and got a check for $8k on top of the cost to repair.
#25
I asked a local dealer if he can give me a general ideal, and he says that he can't until the cars are released. He also said Euro delivery is an extra $3500 cost, which makes no sense to me.
Anyone have an idea of what a new GTS would lease for? 36m, 7500miles, tier1, base car
Anyone have an idea of what a new GTS would lease for? 36m, 7500miles, tier1, base car
$137k build, only drive offs, modest/avg discount from msrp, 7.75% tax rate, youre looking at $2300-2400/mo.
#27
Well congrats on the turbo 997! It’s funny that was/is my favorite 911-the ultimate progression of this iconic car.
ultimately with euro delivery being poss (& since I lease through my Corp,)I found the 991.2 GTS irresistible.
I still look at the turbo 997 as an all-time classic - like my 355GTS it will always look perfect! Enjoy man
ultimately with euro delivery being poss (& since I lease through my Corp,)I found the 991.2 GTS irresistible.
I still look at the turbo 997 as an all-time classic - like my 355GTS it will always look perfect! Enjoy man