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OK Ace, here is the published data on the FVD website:
Genuine:
Engine - 6Cyl. Boxer Twin-Turbo
Capacity - 3600ccm
Compression ratio - 9,4:1
Max. Power - 309kW (415HP) @ 6000rpm
Max. Torque - 560Nm (413lbf ft) @ 3500-4500rpm
Max. Speed - 305km/h
Max. RPM - 6750rpm
Acceleration 0-100km/h - 4.2s
Tuning:
Max. Power - 360kW (490HP) @ 6000rpm
Max. Torque - 735Nm (542lbf ft) @ 4000rpm
Max. Speed - 318km/h
Max. RPM - 7000rpm
Acceleration 0-100km/h - 3.9s
So they claim 75 hp but deliver 45? Sorry, I'm calling the kettle black on this one. I was considering them as I wanted a laptop based tune with adjustability, but not any longer
Genuine:
Engine - 6Cyl. Boxer Twin-Turbo
Capacity - 3600ccm
Compression ratio - 9,4:1
Max. Power - 309kW (415HP) @ 6000rpm
Max. Torque - 560Nm (413lbf ft) @ 3500-4500rpm
Max. Speed - 305km/h
Max. RPM - 6750rpm
Acceleration 0-100km/h - 4.2s
Tuning:
Max. Power - 360kW (490HP) @ 6000rpm
Max. Torque - 735Nm (542lbf ft) @ 4000rpm
Max. Speed - 318km/h
Max. RPM - 7000rpm
Acceleration 0-100km/h - 3.9s
So they claim 75 hp but deliver 45? Sorry, I'm calling the kettle black on this one. I was considering them as I wanted a laptop based tune with adjustability, but not any longer
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The results aren't even close......either the dyno setup was wrong, it was done incorrectly, or FVD publishes incorrect data.
The worst part of course was FVD didn't seem the least bit upset that the numbers were so far off......I know if it was my product I'd want to know EVERYTHING that went into generating the numbers. THAT'S WHY I TOOK THEM OFF MY LIST.
And yes, I expect reputable companies to back up performance claims with actual numbers.......I'm also kind of miffed about the Vivid dyno in another thread where they substituted an old "before" run because the run done just prior to flash was higher so their gain was less.
Is there ANYBODY who claims what they do and then PROVES it?........runs screaming into the night......
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I see. You are still at the naive level of awareness. You will learn grass hopper. I read your post correctly. I said you were being a bit stupid. Naive would have been a better term. No offense intended. Just stating the obvious.
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Have we hooked up
It far from naive to expect vendors to be able to back up their own published data. Thats why I don't fall for the stupid E-bay stuff that somebody posted before, or spend big $$ on exhausts that doesn't have extensive testing.
If nobody can prove what they say, then I'll stick with the stock ECU
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BTW, I agree with your healthy skepticism over HP/TQ claims... Like Reagan said " trust ,but verify"
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I've had my car tested with stock K16 ,europipe super exhaust and K&N filter, stratmosphere divertervalves and Upsolute chip and became 505 hp at the crank (don't have dynosheet anymore)
I upgrated to K16/24 balbearing turbo's and upgrated Upsolute programming and tested on the dyno and measured 566hp and 790nm at the crank.
So I think Upsolute isn't so bad..
I upgrated to K16/24 balbearing turbo's and upgrated Upsolute programming and tested on the dyno and measured 566hp and 790nm at the crank.
So I think Upsolute isn't so bad..
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Only those that have sex with me get to call me stupid......
Have we hooked up
It far from naive to expect vendors to be able to back up their own published data. Thats why I don't fall for the stupid E-bay stuff that somebody posted before, or spend big $$ on exhausts that doesn't have extensive testing.
If nobody can prove what they say, then I'll stick with the stock ECU
Have we hooked up
It far from naive to expect vendors to be able to back up their own published data. Thats why I don't fall for the stupid E-bay stuff that somebody posted before, or spend big $$ on exhausts that doesn't have extensive testing.
If nobody can prove what they say, then I'll stick with the stock ECU
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You're right, if your happy thats what counts. Actually, I owe you a beer for exposing the truth so thanks
I am running stock and have committed to buying a flash this month so I have been overloaded with choices. Now there's one less choice.
I'm a Machinery Engineer by trade, working with 4000 hp turbocharged equipment every day so I'm very thorough with research before I buy performance upgrades......
Yep, move along.....nothing to see here
Gary
I am running stock and have committed to buying a flash this month so I have been overloaded with choices. Now there's one less choice.
I'm a Machinery Engineer by trade, working with 4000 hp turbocharged equipment every day so I'm very thorough with research before I buy performance upgrades......
Yep, move along.....nothing to see here
Gary
And this is no offense to any genuinely gay people out there either.
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