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Softronic Nabs its 1st AZ Victim!

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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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2. What assurance is there that the "quirk" that affected and inflated the morning stock pull didn't affect and inflate the post-flash pull?
The first pull was not a fluke by any means. It was low on torque is all and an earlier dyno run made more sense as physical conditions were close to the same ie: Temp, Humidity etc......

I can post up the other one we just didn't use it as the torque was so low due to the diverter valves leaking boost we used something a bit more relevant.

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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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My two cents:
I've owned/invested in many businesses and always seem to look at everything in terms of "return on investment" For a total of $4,395.00 + 2hrs labor invested (exhaust, tune & DV's) I believe I got a great HP/trq return! Sure I could of spent another $10,000 to $15,000 and got what....an extra 40 to 60 horse power ???(can you say diminishing return)

I am very happy that there are tuners who try to bring the prices down for us so we don't have to spend the big bucks to get the big smiles.

Thanks again Dan

$4,300 =

Chris
 
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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So whats happening at 5100 rpm when the curve goes below the stock one?
I think you are confusing the stock pull and the tuned pull. Looking at it the Tuned HP and torque do not drop below at 5100 or at any level.
 
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 04:10 PM
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looks like we got some attention... as I said before, who is next while this special pricing from Softronic of $1549 with FREE $100 flash cable is going on?
 
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Mitch@Vivid
The first pull was not a fluke by any means. It was low on torque is all and an earlier dyno run made more sense as physical conditions were close to the same ie: Temp, Humidity etc......

I can post up the other one we just didn't use it as the torque was so low due to the diverter valves leaking boost we used something a bit more relevant.

Mitch Mckee
I didn't get that from the first post. Thanks for taking the time to answer and clear that up Mitch!
 
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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I have no affiliation to them. I'm just thinking out loud.
Your tuner does.
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Nor am I pointing fingers towards any particular tuner...
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How can you seriously say that .....you just dimed out every other tuner on this board by telling everyone that we are foolishly overpaying.Are you saying you overpaid at Proto?

Time will tell with Vivid,they offer a nice product,but their kits still have yet to be proven.IMO they have alot of catching up to do with the other tuners on this board(UMW,EVO,PROTO,)before they go taking shots at other tuners by saying "our DEAD STRAIGHT honesty instead of our competition which runs cars in 2wd, or on race gas, or on higher reading dyno's to show you that you got a number which in the real world is not true." That type of blanket statement is a strong one for a company that hasn't shown any "real world" performance numbers.

I would rather not name every guy who thought they were gonna do it cheap the first time to only have to do it over a second or in some cases a third time.I am not saying that this will be the case with Vivid.There is a lot of responsibility when tuning one of these motors because as we all know they aren't cheap or easy to rebuild .Remember it is always easier to do something AFTER you have seen someone else do it.If Vivid can do it cheaper and have the same performance and reliability ......then hats off to them .I look forward to seeing the results.
 
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 06:52 PM
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Yup, victim of the "modding and porsche addiction". That's me. Dan, thanks for your follow up call on Monday morn. I have an unexpected big closing that just came up that might position me for some power. I will keep U posted on when I fly out to talk more. Good gains!
 
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by phxturbo
Just came across this post this morning and have to chime in....I'm the "victim" that got that tune yesterday at Vivid. So far (just drove home) I'm very happy with the results, its hard to believe the difference! I'll post more on my thoughts as I get more seat time. As far as being the first AZ victim of Vivids, well it included:
  1. a bunch of very nice guys in the shop that didn't mind me hanging around asking questions all day
  2. no charge for dyno time
  3. Mitch taking his time with me...checking air/fuel, boost, etc
  4. finding out I was losing boost and Dan offering me a set of DV's at no charge
Anyway, all good things to say about Vivid's customer service and I'll let all know my thoughts on the tune as I drive the car more.


Chris
Congrats bro, enjoy z power! Keep us posted on seat time.
 
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by joetwint
Your tuner does.How can you seriously say that .....you just dimed out every other tuner on this board by telling everyone that we are foolishly overpaying.Are you saying you overpaid at Proto?

Time will tell with Vivid,they offer a nice product,but their kits still have yet to be proven.IMO they have alot of catching up to do with the other tuners on this board(UMW,EVO,PROTO,)before they go taking shots at other tuners by saying "our DEAD STRAIGHT honesty instead of our competition which runs cars in 2wd, or on race gas, or on higher reading dyno's to show you that you got a number which in the real world is not true." That type of blanket statement is a strong one for a company that hasn't shown any "real world" performance numbers.

I would rather not name every guy who thought they were gonna do it cheap the first time to only have to do it over a second or in some cases a third time.I am not saying that this will be the case with Vivid.There is a lot of responsibility when tuning one of these motors because as we all know they aren't cheap or easy to rebuild .Remember it is always easier to do something AFTER you have seen someone else do it.If Vivid can do it cheaper and have the same performance and reliability ......then hats off to them .I look forward to seeing the results.

Vivid is using Softronic and I would not consider their software cheap or inferior.
 
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 07:14 PM
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Vivid is using Softronic and I would not consider their software cheap or inferior.
Scott, of course you would'nt consider your own software cheap
 
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 07:34 PM
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Scott, of course you would'nt consider your own software cheap
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by joetwint
Your tuner does.How can you seriously say that .....you just dimed out every other tuner on this board by telling everyone that we are foolishly overpaying.Are you saying you overpaid at Proto?
Yes. I even said that in my post. Maybe not as much at Proto because they helped out later after the fact... But I still paid $130/hour labor rate. And I'm sure you did at Evoms.... yet they took care of you too. Im not promoting Vivid... I just think you guys should give them a fair chance like others did when Evoms was in the beginning stages.... And look at where they are at today.
Now that I know what I know and I'm more educated and just sit back and laugh...
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OK group hug.....

Not to much, I do have other salty jar heads that may bust my chops.
 


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