Help with a traffic ticket
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Exactly.....Patrolman are considered by the state to be "experts" at judging speed.....for example.....when you get a radar ticket by a guy at the side of the road...he is "using" the radar gun only to verify HIS visual estimate of your speed....not the other way around....that said...I would bet a good lawyer can get you out of this one.....
If the CHP has experience under his belt, he can estimate you rate of speed and ticket you for his estimating. They teach this at CHP School. The more experience he has, the better his argument will be in court.
You need a spotter in the front and rear of any group run like this. All of the drivers (or at least most) need to have radios (CB hand held for $40 each). Rotate the spotters and maintain contact with all drivers so if someone is notified or waiting for a visual or radar, and spotter radios the group and you can slow down and avoid the $3000 between the group.
You need a spotter in the front and rear of any group run like this. All of the drivers (or at least most) need to have radios (CB hand held for $40 each). Rotate the spotters and maintain contact with all drivers so if someone is notified or waiting for a visual or radar, and spotter radios the group and you can slow down and avoid the $3000 between the group.
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If the CHP has experience under his belt, he can estimate you rate of speed and ticket you for his estimation. They teach this at CHP School. The more experience he has, the better his argument will be in court.
You need a spotter in the front and rear of any group run like this. All of the drivers (or at least most) need to have radios (CB hand held for $40 each). Rotate the spotters and maintain contact with all drivers so if someone is notified or waiting for a visual or radar, and spotter radios the group and you can slow down and avoid the $3000 between the group.
You need a spotter in the front and rear of any group run like this. All of the drivers (or at least most) need to have radios (CB hand held for $40 each). Rotate the spotters and maintain contact with all drivers so if someone is notified or waiting for a visual or radar, and spotter radios the group and you can slow down and avoid the $3000 between the group.
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There are plenty of track days for the rest of the year starting now between, Sears Point, Laguna Seca or Thunderhill go there to do you racing! Slow down on the city and state hwys!
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Thanks for all the replies guys! I spoke with a person from the court house today and she said while its not for sure, there's a good chance i'll be able to go to traffic school for both violations. Has anyone ever heard/had this happen to them before?
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So it was one officer who witnessed the violations and wrote all the citations?
You guys should all set up court dates all on consecutive days. He'll hate spending his week in court and might just not show to some of them. Just a thought.
You guys should all set up court dates all on consecutive days. He'll hate spending his week in court and might just not show to some of them. Just a thought.
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Only one officer witnessed it, but i believe three different officers wrote out tickets.
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Some advice:
1. Do not discuss this here. Do not rely on advice posted here OTHER THAN FROM THE LAWYER!
2. Do not do this yourself... this will need a sharp, experienced lawyer to find the flaws (if any) as this case develops.
3. Find out if you can take traffic school AFTER the trial. In my area you can. Do not take traffic school unless essential- otherwise you'll be screwed for the next 18 months (until yyou can do school again)
I agree with the comment that there will likely be 'problems with proof'...who saw what, which car was pulled over by whom, etc, etc. This is not for amateurs (like me)
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1. Do not discuss this here. Do not rely on advice posted here OTHER THAN FROM THE LAWYER!
2. Do not do this yourself... this will need a sharp, experienced lawyer to find the flaws (if any) as this case develops.
3. Find out if you can take traffic school AFTER the trial. In my area you can. Do not take traffic school unless essential- otherwise you'll be screwed for the next 18 months (until yyou can do school again)
I agree with the comment that there will likely be 'problems with proof'...who saw what, which car was pulled over by whom, etc, etc. This is not for amateurs (like me)
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After all of my runs through the past years, of extreme driving (upper 100's) with like 30+ cars I count myself extremely lucky, especially since me , Raudel (RCNJ in his GT2) and my friend Joey in his Murci past a trooper while all 3 of us were WOT over a 100..
Never again, I have become one of the most calm/cautious drivers now.
Colby sorry I haven't called you, but tomorrow i'll give you a r ing about this and that!
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Exactly!!!
After all of my runs through the past years, of extreme driving (upper 100's) with like 30+ cars I count myself extremely lucky, especially since me , Raudel (RCNJ in his GT2) and my friend Joey in his Murci past a trooper while all 3 of us were WOT over a 100..
Never again, I have become one of the most calm/cautious drivers now.
Colby sorry I haven't called you, but tomorrow i'll give you a r ing about this and that!
After all of my runs through the past years, of extreme driving (upper 100's) with like 30+ cars I count myself extremely lucky, especially since me , Raudel (RCNJ in his GT2) and my friend Joey in his Murci past a trooper while all 3 of us were WOT over a 100..
Never again, I have become one of the most calm/cautious drivers now.
Colby sorry I haven't called you, but tomorrow i'll give you a r ing about this and that!
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Some advice:
1. Do not discuss this here. Do not rely on advice posted here OTHER THAN FROM THE LAWYER!
2. Do not do this yourself... this will need a sharp, experienced lawyer to find the flaws (if any) as this case develops.
3. Find out if you can take traffic school AFTER the trial. In my area you can. Do not take traffic school unless essential- otherwise you'll be screwed for the next 18 months (until yyou can do school again)
I agree with the comment that there will likely be 'problems with proof'...who saw what, which car was pulled over by whom, etc, etc. This is not for amateurs (like me)
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1. Do not discuss this here. Do not rely on advice posted here OTHER THAN FROM THE LAWYER!
2. Do not do this yourself... this will need a sharp, experienced lawyer to find the flaws (if any) as this case develops.
3. Find out if you can take traffic school AFTER the trial. In my area you can. Do not take traffic school unless essential- otherwise you'll be screwed for the next 18 months (until yyou can do school again)
I agree with the comment that there will likely be 'problems with proof'...who saw what, which car was pulled over by whom, etc, etc. This is not for amateurs (like me)
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Did you get that EP II Quiet?
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Not yet. Sent my cell number, home number, posted on his thread, sent PMs... haven't been able to say "I'll buy it, how do I pay you"
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its a pity it was a not a remote camera pic or you could have said it was a friend who was visting from scotland who was driving, my uncle in austraila has had a few tickets whem visiting me in scotland!! i just post them back to the office they came from with the forwarding address in orange, new south wales!!
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You can't beat a CHP or cop in court by yourself. Cops are considered experts that always tell the truth. You are considered a guilty dog until proven innocent which will never happen if you represent yourself. Hire a good attorney. It's well worth the money
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tickets are no fun.. but it happens if yur doin dumb stuff... i got out of a really bad one this fall and was lucky, i was with another member on here well following his Carrera GT going about 185 past 2 cops in cleveland OH!! lol ya dumb but man was it a rush...