996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

New record 60-130 for 997TT

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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 06:40 PM
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Scott, is the cost of parts and labor comparative to the work involved in doing these mods to a 996 or is it any cheaper?
 
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Those are fantastic runs. Congrats to Todd/Proto for building another great car!!!

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Originally Posted by OhioGT2
Scott, is the cost of parts and labor comparative to the work involved in doing these mods to a 996 or is it any cheaper?
Jamie,

To be honest, I haven't checked into it. But I'd imagine the prices are very similar.

Tempting, huh?
 
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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
Jamie,

To be honest, I haven't checked into it. But I'd imagine the prices are very similar.

Tempting, huh?

What a great number! Congrats to Proto!

Divexxtreme! Can you ask Todd what is its 60~130mph number for modified VTG turbo? Thanks!
 
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Wow, great numbers, especially for a non-tip!!
 

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WOW, those are great numbers for a car that can be as comfortable as a luxury car and as badass as a super car. Congrats!
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
Jamie,

To be honest, I haven't checked into it. But I'd imagine the prices are very similar.

Tempting, huh?
It is. In my old age, reliable bolt-ons are becoming a much more interesting option than full out builds....
 
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It should cost less than a 996TT of same performance.

The 997TT is an incredible platform!!!

really ticks me off...

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Oil lines/coolant are more complex.
The exhaust work is nearly identical
The intake work was no fun, having to integrate a recirc system where the vgt's had it integral with the turbo. We'd like to use our Ypipe and put the maf's/air filters in the fenderwells like on the 996tt's from now on and use our intercoolers and full intake system for even more efficiency.
The dual pumps and huge injectors make that part very nice though.
Of course, we got hammered on the first car, with the development, but we'll hopefully start making some of that back on the next few. We still have to fixture up the intake components though. So, no kits yet.
This would be a great system on a GT2!!! And it appears that the power will continue to where ever your pucker factor will allow it to go on a stock block.
 
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Todd, in your opinion, how much power will the stock block take reliably? 600 awhp? 700 awhp?

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I checked the list for EVOMS 997TT shop car (the one I beat at the Texas Mile)
and I did not see a 60-130 ???

Is this car faster than the EVOMS car?
 
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HoustonT/It seems to depend on how well you take care of your baby... On High qualtiy fuels, the reliability is much higher than on pump fuel... I think 600awhp is pushing it on pump fuel, especially never knowing what you're getting out of the pump. MS103made the 700 really simply, but even then started showing some slight knock activity at 6500-7000 rpm's, so C16 would be a no brainer, but is leaded. The cars we've seen survive the high power levels have all been on 103, C12, or C16. The people that like to push it on pump fuel have engine problems. The compression ratio is just too high and with the advanced camshaft movements, there's an incredible amount of torque available in lower rpm's where it can really do some damage on lower quality fuels.
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Originally Posted by TRK
Oil lines/coolant are more complex.
The exhaust work is nearly identical
The intake work was no fun, having to integrate a recirc system where the vgt's had it integral with the turbo. We'd like to use our Ypipe and put the maf's/air filters in the fenderwells like on the 996tt's from now on and use our intercoolers and full intake system for even more efficiency.
The dual pumps and huge injectors make that part very nice though.
Of course, we got hammered on the first car, with the development, but we'll hopefully start making some of that back on the next few. We still have to fixture up the intake components though. So, no kits yet.
This would be a great system on a GT2!!! And it appears that the power will continue to where ever your pucker factor will allow it to go on a stock block.
Good info Todd! Time to save my pennies, sell my Supra, empty the kids' college fund and find a used 08 GT2 next year....

See you in Texas!
 
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Originally Posted by TRK
...The dual pumps and huge injectors make that part very nice though.
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Sorry if I missed something, but are these components stock?
 


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