996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

Engine Rebuild?

Thread Tools
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 03:30 PM
  #16  
john rice's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 470
From: NCal
Rep Power: 47
john rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to behold
Hummmm, to say this is interesting...! Gents, I had no idea the tts could be spun so high! I realize you are discussing serious mods to accommidate this. I didn't expect there would be much need/desire to go so high with a puffer anyway. I have experience building nice old 930s and you don't see much of this on the street. I know I started something discussing the Type 1 and 2s and then I read.... this. :->

SO, is anyone willing to speculate how much a stock 996tt engine is .... actually... long term durable and safe to rev without internal mods [I suspect that without some porting and perhaps different cams/exhaust this may be pointless anyway.] Very interesting stuff here. Thanks. MORE!
JR
 
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 03:41 PM
  #17  
996TT_STEVO's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,841
From: NY & UK
Rep Power: 171
996TT_STEVO has a reputation beyond repute996TT_STEVO has a reputation beyond repute996TT_STEVO has a reputation beyond repute996TT_STEVO has a reputation beyond repute996TT_STEVO has a reputation beyond repute996TT_STEVO has a reputation beyond repute996TT_STEVO has a reputation beyond repute996TT_STEVO has a reputation beyond repute996TT_STEVO has a reputation beyond repute996TT_STEVO has a reputation beyond repute996TT_STEVO has a reputation beyond repute
I have seen this thread somewhere before, lol
 
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 04:30 PM
  #18  
john rice's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 470
From: NCal
Rep Power: 47
john rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to behold
Guys,
I tried my search a bit different and came up with lots.
The closest is [but there are questions being asked and not answered...soooo?]
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...light=high+rev

and this link has more:
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...light=high+rev

and this link:
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...light=high+rev

There is no defined agreement. After reading all of these I conclude that a stock engine is good for 7,000 and anything higher is asking for reliability problems BUT if you don't mind taking chances you may get away with as much as 7,500.... for a while. I think 7k must be the magic spot but that will require a software change as your stock rev limiter should kick in at 6750rpm.
That's all I can figure out at this point.
JR
 
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 07:16 PM
  #19  
dgreen78's Avatar
Registered User
15 Year Member
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,040
From: Seattle
Rep Power: 130
dgreen78 has a reputation beyond reputedgreen78 has a reputation beyond reputedgreen78 has a reputation beyond reputedgreen78 has a reputation beyond reputedgreen78 has a reputation beyond reputedgreen78 has a reputation beyond reputedgreen78 has a reputation beyond reputedgreen78 has a reputation beyond reputedgreen78 has a reputation beyond reputedgreen78 has a reputation beyond reputedgreen78 has a reputation beyond repute
I just got a quote from a local P-car dealer for 6K + parts to do a rebuild. FYI
 
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 07:45 PM
  #20  
TXGold's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,817
From: Houston, TX
Rep Power: 238
TXGold Is a GOD !TXGold Is a GOD !TXGold Is a GOD !TXGold Is a GOD !TXGold Is a GOD !TXGold Is a GOD !TXGold Is a GOD !TXGold Is a GOD !TXGold Is a GOD !TXGold Is a GOD !TXGold Is a GOD !
I just priced a GT3 crank at 1200+shipping. Apparently valves start floating at 7200 and lubrication needs to be addressed at 7400.
 
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 08:05 PM
  #21  
markski@markskituning's Avatar
Basic Sponsor
20 Year Member
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 9,730
From: CHICAGO
Rep Power: 604
markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !
I doubt a dealer will be willing to warranty apr head studs when they let go ....
rebuilding the motor to stock specs is one thing.. but doing aftermarket stuff for 1.58 bars is another....
markski
 
__________________

2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66
seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile
click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
50% OFF ON PORSCHE ECU TUNING BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL




Old Mar 19, 2008 | 09:38 PM
  #22  
TXGold's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,817
From: Houston, TX
Rep Power: 238
TXGold Is a GOD !TXGold Is a GOD !TXGold Is a GOD !TXGold Is a GOD !TXGold Is a GOD !TXGold Is a GOD !TXGold Is a GOD !TXGold Is a GOD !TXGold Is a GOD !TXGold Is a GOD !TXGold Is a GOD !
Can a stock spec rebuild be done, but include a GT3 crank, GT3 Oil Pump, and Carrillo Rods without changing anything else?
 
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 10:06 PM
  #23  
markski@markskituning's Avatar
Basic Sponsor
20 Year Member
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 9,730
From: CHICAGO
Rep Power: 604
markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by TXGold
Can a stock spec rebuild be done, but include a GT3 crank, GT3 Oil Pump, and Carrillo Rods without changing anything else?
I dont think so... but KPG would know...
 
__________________

2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66
seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile
click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
50% OFF ON PORSCHE ECU TUNING BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL




Old Mar 19, 2008 | 10:26 PM
  #24  
Neil@Orton's Avatar
Banned
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,243
From: Atlanta
Rep Power: 72
Neil@Orton is infamous around these parts
Originally Posted by TXGold
I just priced a GT3 crank at 1200+shipping. Apparently valves start floating at 7200 and lubrication needs to be addressed at 7400.
There is a fellow board members car that revs to 8K on a stock crank @ 1.5 bar and is tracked weekly with no problems.
 
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 11:16 PM
  #25  
john rice's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 470
From: NCal
Rep Power: 47
john rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to behold
Two comments I must make. My brother has been an independent Porsche tech for a good 20 years now [prior to that he was a multi rated aircraft tech]. I can guarantee you that you cannot get a quality rebuild on one of these engines for under $12k MINIMUM! Absolute. Anything else is deciding where to cut corners. Once you start "building" these, it is a matter of stupendous $$$ or being extremely lucky finding some deals on parts. Count on it being stupendous.

As far as spinning stock internals I do not doubt what is being said but the real question is how long will it last? When it does ..go... count on it being incredibly expensive. [Sigh, I know too much about both of the above from personal experience. The only way around spending the big bucks is running it for a short period and dumping it before it blows and letting the next guy suffer the consequences.]
JR
 
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 11:20 PM
  #26  
sharkster's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 23,879
Rep Power: 1517
sharkster Is a GOD !sharkster Is a GOD !sharkster Is a GOD !sharkster Is a GOD !sharkster Is a GOD !sharkster Is a GOD !sharkster Is a GOD !sharkster Is a GOD !sharkster Is a GOD !sharkster Is a GOD !sharkster Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by john rice
Two comments I must make. My brother has been an independent Porsche tech for a good 20 years now [prior to that he was a multi rated aircraft tech]. I can guarantee you that you cannot get a quality rebuild on one of these engines for under $12k MINIMUM! Absolute. Anything else is deciding where to cut corners. Once you start "building" these, it is a matter of stupendous $$$ or being extremely lucky finding some deals on parts. Count on it being stupendous.

As far as spinning stock internals I do not doubt what is being said but the real question is how long will it last? When it does ..go... count on it being incredibly expensive. [Sigh, I know too much about both of the above from personal experience. The only way around spending the big bucks is running it for a short period and dumping it before it blows and letting the next guy suffer the consequences.]
JR
+1, 2 & 3 John Rice....
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
eclip5e
Automobiles For Sale
6
Jul 29, 2019 11:13 AM
nlakind
Automobiles For Sale
3
Nov 6, 2015 10:15 AM
LiquidElephant
Automobiles For Sale
3
Aug 27, 2015 06:17 PM
The Oss
Automobiles For Sale
2
Aug 24, 2015 08:19 PM



You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:32 PM.