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doktordyper 02-23-2009 07:52 PM

BOS & CA sales tax
 
Hey guys,

Would like your respected opinions. Purchased an 02' 996TT last September (yikes!) and have a blank BOS from the dealer in TX I bought it from. What is a reasonable price to use as to not raise suspiscion and also, ethically, not to feel extremely guilty of denying our broke state of a couple grand. Actual purchase price was $44K. Curious also I suppose, if anyone feels this is wrong. My wife and I pay half our salaries to the government, so do not feel like they are not getting thier money to give me good roads to drive on..

flash68 02-23-2009 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by doktordyper (Post 2274063)
Hey guys,

Would like your respected opinions. Purchased an 02' 996TT last September (yikes!) and have a blank BOS from the dealer in TX I bought it from. What is a reasonable price to use as to not raise suspiscion and also, ethically, not to feel extremely guilty of denying our broke state of a couple grand. Actual purchase price was $44K. Curious also I suppose, if anyone feels this is wrong. My wife and I pay half our salaries to the government, so do not feel like they are not getting thier money to give me good roads to drive on..

I would put it between $15-20k. Yes, I am serious. Everyone I know does this, whether it is a $5k car or a $50k car. When I am shopping for cars via private party, most of the sellers offer without solicitation to put a much lower amount on the BOS. This is not policed.

supercup 02-23-2009 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by doktordyper (Post 2274063)
Hey guys,

Would like your respected opinions. Purchased an 02' 996TT last September (yikes!) and have a blank BOS from the dealer in TX I bought it from. What is a reasonable price to use as to not raise suspiscion and also, ethically, not to feel extremely guilty of denying our broke state of a couple grand. Actual purchase price was $44K. Curious also I suppose, if anyone feels this is wrong. My wife and I pay half our salaries to the government, so do not feel like they are not getting thier money to give me good roads to drive on..

Now that you posted this I would not do it for any amount other than what you posted. But if you are so inclined to save a few bucks I would use Kelly blue book trade in value in fair condition - it will match up against the computer test and most likely not raise any red flags.

I have had the DMV send me letters 2 times in the past 5 years when I sold a truck and a 911 and the buyer put down a very low number. The letter simply asked that I verify the number I received. Keep that in mind, there is always a paper trail to follow if they feel like it.

JCM

TurboLover 02-23-2009 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by supercup (Post 2274112)
Now that you posted this I would not do it for any amount other than what you posted. But if you are so inclined to save a few bucks I would use Kelly blue book trade in value in fair condition - it will match up against the computer test and most likely not raise any red flags.

I have had the DMV send me letters 2 times in the past 5 years when I sold a truck and a 911 and the buyer put down a very low number. The letter simply asked that I verify the number I received. Keep that in mind, there is always a paper trail to follow if they feel like it.

JCM

What happens if the seller ignored the forms from the DMV? :confused:

flash68 02-23-2009 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by supercup (Post 2274112)
I have had the DMV send me letters 2 times in the past 5 years when I sold a truck and a 911 and the buyer put down a very low number. The letter simply asked that I verify the number I received. Keep that in mind, there is always a paper trail to follow if they feel like it.

JCM

Interesting.... never heard of that happening.

stevo996tt 02-24-2009 01:25 AM

i never heard as well, usually putting any amount over 15k is good

doktordyper 02-24-2009 08:19 AM

thanks for the feedback everyone. The number I had in mind was in the $10k - $15k range....

Seal Grey Matte 02-24-2009 08:32 AM

Disclaimer: I'm a lawyer, but I'm not YOUR lawyer.

Not the brightest move to create a paper trail here. Willful tax evasion is punishable with prison time. Is a grand worth jail time to you? Granted, it's very unlikely that you'll get caught, but the juice doesn't seem like it's worth the squeeze in this case.

doktordyper 02-24-2009 08:38 AM

seal grey, thanks for pointing out the fact that willful tax evasion is illegal. Do you actually think someone on this forum would actually break the law and risk prison time? In all seriousness, I was waiting for a lawyer to weigh in with your exact response, and you did not dissapoint, THANK YOU!

Seal Grey Matte 02-24-2009 08:45 AM

Everyone knows it's illegal, not everyone knows you get jail time. Lots of people think you just pay a fine and move on. Just making sure you go into this with eyes open. Carry on.

mdd 02-24-2009 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by doktordyper (Post 2274063)
Hey guys,
Would like your respected opinions. .... Curious also I suppose, if anyone feels this is wrong. .

I've never commented on anything like this before but since you asked, of course I think it's wrong. As Seal Grey pointed out, its illegal and you could go to jail. It can't be justified no matter how you look at it or by how much you already paid in income tax. Whether you get caught or not, its still stealing. Pay the tax and move on.
Since you have now made a public record of the actual sale price and your intent to evade the tax, you would have a really difficult time in front of a judge.

s14roller 02-24-2009 01:09 PM

If it sounds too low, they will flag it for review.

02 Porsche for $10K, it will be flagged....

I'd go for $30K to be safe.

MY996TT 02-24-2009 01:10 PM

I would just pay the tax, move on, and be worry free... exactly what I did. It is one of those that it will probably nothing happen and no one will ask; but if someone asks, you'll wish you'd have never done it.

raineycd 02-24-2009 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by MY996TT (Post 2275151)
I would just pay the tax, move on, and be worry free... exactly what I did. It is one of those that it will probably nothing happen and no one will ask; but if someone asks, you'll wish you'd have never done it.

+1

Cant drive in prison...

shaunt 02-24-2009 09:00 PM

just register it in Nevada for a year and then register it in CA next year and pay NO tax. :)


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