996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 07:21 AM
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That was the first thing I noticed here on the forum. A lot of people throwing around all these big HP numbers. I think it started with all the "KITS" you can buy. I think it makes some people think they are missing something. If you haven't had your engine on an engine dyno, do you really know how much much power you have? If you know how much wheel HP it makes on a chassis dyno, thats how much it makes on THAT dyno, that day.
 
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 07:23 AM
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I would agree that 20% is being to kind. in reality probably closer to 17-18. Dynos aren't exactly perfect either.

HC even though you are using RWD mostly, all of the equipment is still there so there is loss regardless. It will never approach RWD, maybe not 20 and I agree with that b ut definitely not 15
 
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 08:08 AM
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Personally, I think it prudent to forget about flywheel estimates based on chassis dyno results.

As ttboost stated, unless the engine has been on an engine dyno, there is no accurate way to estimate flywheel numbers.
Too much conjecture about loss %'s.
(and too many inflated egos to go along with that)

Chassis dyno numbers are the best choice when comparing mods, as long as a baseline has been made.
Then simply add back the gained wheel hp to the stock flywheel rating, and you'll have a more fair estimate of flywheel hp.
 
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 08:10 AM
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Hey GBG,

All that being said, what did your car dyno AT THE WHEELS?
Just curious.
 
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 08:15 AM
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all that being said, do a 60-130 or run the 1/4 mile and your trap speed will tell you more about how much power you put down than any dyno.
 
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Prche951
all that being said, do a 60-130 or run the 1/4 mile and your trap speed will tell you more about how much power you put down than any dyno.

Aahhh yes, the "asphalt dyno"!!!
PBox numbers DON"T lie. They all use the SAME satellites...sort of
 
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ttboost
Aahhh yes, the "asphalt dyno"!!!
PBox numbers DON"T lie. They all use the SAME satellites...sort of

sometimes reality hurts.
 
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Prche951
sometimes reality hurts.
Yeah a real kick in the asphalt
 
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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am dying to know my real hp to the ground, but have no time to dyno guys give me an estimate. 01tt
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think thats it except for the ssk any guesses would be neat it feel fairly fast at this piont thanks steve
 
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by steve harris
am dying to know my real hp to the ground, but have no time to dyno guys give me an estimate. 01tt
lwfw
evo ics
kevins k16s hybrids
scargo headers
euriopipe loud
evo pipeing to turbos
evo air box
evo hoses
think thats it except for the ssk any guesses would be neat it feel fairly fast at this piont thanks steve

475-500 wheel HP?
 
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 05:44 PM
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gee i hope feels great sorry i forgot the giac flash which was to add 80 hp
 
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by steve harris
gee i hope feels great sorry i forgot the giac flash which was to add 80 hp

Assumed that, with all those Mods and Hybrid turbos...
 
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ttboost
Aahhh yes, the "asphalt dyno"!!!
PBox numbers DON"T lie. They all use the SAME satellites...sort of
Bet your PBOX wont give you the same 60-130 @ 6000 ft in colorado as it would at sea level in VA. Not much better than the drag strip in that regard.
 
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
Bet your PBOX wont give you the same 60-130 @ 6000 ft in colorado as it would at sea level in VA. Not much better than the drag strip in that regard.

Bet your right!!! I don't want to find out!!!
 
Old Apr 14, 2009 | 05:53 PM
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ok how about adding so hp for race gas and in my race file (ALMOST ALWAYS) come on i beggin for more hp, he he
 


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