996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

Are engine internals the same for the turbo and GT2?

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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 04:31 AM
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Are engine internals the same for the turbo and GT2?

The reason I'm asking is eventually I want to upgrade to K24's of some kind and am wondering if a regular turbo will support that.
 
Old Jul 8, 2009 | 05:29 AM
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Running the k24/18g set-up on my car with no internals done. These are really strong motors and if you don't go crazy with the boost they will take a lot of HP and still last a long time.

We still need to swap rides
 
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while they are basically the same there are different part numbers (don't know what is physically different) for:
cylinders/pistons
oil pump
tranny cooler

other stuff:
some lines/hoses
ICs
air ducts
fuel pump
muffler
clutch spring/master cylinder
intake manifold
 
Old Jul 8, 2009 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by landjet
The reason I'm asking is eventually I want to upgrade to K24's of some kind and am wondering if a regular turbo will support that.

upgrade away, it's the exact same engine. The major difference is the K24's, tuning, turbo intake tubes are bigger, reportedly, and larger IC's (called GT2 ic's). Of course there are more diferences than that, but for your purposes that is it.
 
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Same motor...just some slight changes to parts around it is my understanding.
 
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Built a few so as far as the motor goes there are a couple of key differences... The gt2 uses a GT3-R oil pump with a secondary pick up being the major diff....
 
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sharky is the gt3 oil pump with secondaty pick up realy needed if you dont track the car ?
 
Old Jul 8, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by unvmym3
sharky is the gt3 oil pump with secondaty pick up realy needed if you dont track the car ?
On hard cornering or hard off the line starts the stock turbo pump is not sufficient.
 
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I think the GT2 has different cams too.
 
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Same cams.

Remember that the X-50 package came with K-24's so if your original question is
will the block of a standard 996 TT (K16) be able to withstand the mad Power from
some K-24's...the answer is yes.

MK
 
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Originally Posted by David9962000
I think the GT2 has different cams too.
I have been told that the cams are the same just the cam timing was just locked wide open on the GT2(more duration), making it less tractable but making more power. This can be done to the tt as well. This is what I remember hearing. but who knows
 
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Originally Posted by wross996TT
while they are basically the same there are different part numbers (don't know what is physically different) for:
cylinders/pistons
oil pump
tranny cooler

other stuff:
some lines/hoses
ICs
air ducts
fuel pump
muffler
clutch spring/master cylinder
intake manifold
Wross, correct me if I am wrong but sometimes different part numbers can
be the exact same parts (I have run into this on some replacement parts on my car)

I do not believe that that the pistons, heads, cams or anything other than
the oil pump and transmission cooler are different.

MK

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Good to know.
 
Old Jul 9, 2009 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by WOODTSTER
Wross, correct me if I am wrong but sometimes different part numbers can
be the exact same parts (I have run into this on some replacement parts on my car)

I do not believe that that the pistons, heads, cams or anything other than
the oil pump and transmission cooler are different.

MK

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Woodster,

You are assuming correctly. internal motor wise the only difference is the oil pump and it's pickups. The pump is higher volume and the additional pickup adds to the protection from oil starvation with tracking and fast accelerations.
 

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