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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 06:30 AM
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I just took my car to the local Benz dealership for repair of a ding...no porsche dealer here. Some say one should only use Glazzeret (sp?) paint on porsches. This shop uses Sherman and Williams. Did I do the wrong thing? Please advise.
 
Old Nov 2, 2004 | 08:18 AM
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Glasurit.
 
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Spies Hecker will do the trick as well. Both are factory chemistry. Don't use anything less.
 
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German clears work well but most important is the paint manufacturer's color if you dont have a painter that is very talented on color match the German lines are definately the best (most accurate). Sherwin williams is really a production style paint for your average collision shop and for most people (just about all people) you cannot tell the difference period, but if money isn't an object Glasurit or Spies Hecker. Spies would be my choice.
 
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German clears work well but most important is the paint manufacturer's color if you dont have a painter that is very talented on color match the German lines are definately the best (most accurate).
Good shops use a digital paint sampler (a camera really) that can be downloaded into a computer, matching the paint exactly. It takes all of the guess work out of the process.
 
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Good shops use a digital paint sampler (a camera really) that can be downloaded into a computer, matching the paint exactly. It takes all of the guess work out of the process.
If you ever used one you would find that they are not that accurate and tinting again is needed which requires a good painter. Digital eyes get you close maybe even blendable match but not spot on. Remember each manufacturer has their own "digital color eye" and they are the ones that programmed them. The point I was making is German lines have much better matching formulas to color codes as I believe they spend more time on this part of their business. Ulimately people don't keep their cars long enough to matter but if they did any good shop would warranty their paint job for the life of the vehicle.
 
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Bingo. The digital gimmick is not as accurate as you might think. Experienced eyes are the key.
 
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Thanks for all the advice. I'l let you know how it turns out. Unless its too bad to talk about.
 

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The dent is in a crease...dentless repair not possible
 

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It doesn't matter if it is in a crease or not. Take it to someone good and they can fix it....
 
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Picked up the car today. Looks great...despite the Sherwin Williams paint. Color match done perfectly. I also had the bumperetts painted. 18 inchSSR GT3's come Monday.
 

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Originally posted by JC996TT
If you ever used one you would find that they are not that accurate and tinting again is needed which requires a good painter.
I've seen one in action. My cousin builds and paints custom bikes and cars and I watched him use the technique on my car when he repaired the rear windshield wiper produced paint damage and repainted my front bumper. The match couldn't have been better.
 
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I heard that because of environmental concerns, the solvents
in the paints that Porsche uses don't permit the best, most
durable paint. Does anyone have some less-rumor-based
info on this?
thanks,
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I heard that because of environmental concerns, the solvents
in the paints that Porsche uses don't permit the best, most
durable paint. Does anyone have some less-rumor-based
info on this?
thanks,
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Depends on which state your in. The VOC levels each state aloows are different. California has the lowest VOC tolerance and has more difficult paint restrictions comparative to other places. The high solid paints have more texture in their application and are more prone to shrinkage, some colors (dark) are worse then others. The key is again a good painter, more important then paint brand IMHO... and I do know a little bit about that since I paint over 100 cars a month in my shop.
 


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