PSS10s or H&R Springs ???
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did you need an axle nut remover and ball joint puller for the fronts?
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After hearing your experience, I think I might be willing to give it a shot. Are RUF springs very different from H&R?
My car has Ruf springs that I bought from a member. I read threads/ post where some people said it was not worth going for springs because the ride quality was really bad and you couldnt really drive it hard/felt floaty. Well, from my personal experience, i did not experience any of that. As a matter infact last time i was at a event, a owner in a gt3 with motons/hoosiers/pccbs beat me badly when i was in stock suspension. When i got the ruf springs/alingment/control arms/proper tires-- it was a complete 180 with the same car/driver. As a matter infact i was able to extract, 6 secs out of my previous best lap time !! 
For locals, thill ; i was lapping in the high 1:5X's
For locals, thill ; i was lapping in the high 1:5X's
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you will be very happy with the H&R springs.
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Does anyone have a picture of a car with sagging springs? Can this for sure be attributed to the springs and not the shocks?
For a person who hasn't tried both or perhaps has tried just the PSS10s setup it might not seem logical that just a set of springs would do the job, but from reading the responses it seems like springs would work for >95% of driving situations. The detriment appears to be that *maybe* their longevity is not as good. Are there any other potential negatives?
For a person who hasn't tried both or perhaps has tried just the PSS10s setup it might not seem logical that just a set of springs would do the job, but from reading the responses it seems like springs would work for >95% of driving situations. The detriment appears to be that *maybe* their longevity is not as good. Are there any other potential negatives?
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I don't think so if i recall correctly.
I'm not sure honestly. I contacted RUF several times to ask them what was the spring rate, if i recall correctly they said 20% stiffer then stock but they wouldnt give me numbers.
the TT is my daily driver. So it is livable. But I also have straight pipes exhaust so i'm not the person to really be asking.
p.s for reference of the lap time. Theirs a guy here on 6speed who has a GTR, and laps 2:05's at that track. and theirs a few gt3/rs owners who lap 2:01's into the 1:5X's fwtw
the TT is my daily driver. So it is livable. But I also have straight pipes exhaust so i'm not the person to really be asking.
p.s for reference of the lap time. Theirs a guy here on 6speed who has a GTR, and laps 2:05's at that track. and theirs a few gt3/rs owners who lap 2:01's into the 1:5X's fwtw
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If you only run lowering springs it can make your stock shocks wear out quicker because they were not designed to work with the shorter spring.
If you buy coilovers the springs and shocks are designed to work together so you will not have any problems and the car will handle better, plus you have the added bonus of adjustability.
If you buy coilovers the springs and shocks are designed to work together so you will not have any problems and the car will handle better, plus you have the added bonus of adjustability.
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I got a set of JRZ 11 way adjustable shocks with 300# springs up front and 450# springs on rear and GT# front and rear sway bars with heavy duty drop links off my 2003 996 X50 Turbo. Did autocrossing and drivers ed as well as street driving. Lowered the car about 1 1/2". They were rebuilt about a year ago, and were recheched by the JRZ guy after removal. Took them off the car when I thought about selling the car. Now its the dinner out car. Have another car for the track. If you or anyone else is interseted, the whole shooting match $1500.
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Don’t do the H&R springs. See photos, what happens after 25K miles. Sag followed by clicking noise as coils rub against each other. Also you will destroy upper mounting cups. Use search you will find my thread on it. Also, because you are on OEM shocks, the springs will compress them which will make you car floaty at speed. Get PSS 10's and don't listen to people saying that lowering with H&R springs = great handling. Nobody who understands handling and racing would change just springs - it's really dim-witted. Previous owner of my car did it and now I've had to fix it. Car is now night and day. ;-).
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I have a 2001 996tt with 19" Techart wheels with Stage 4 EVOM upgrades and just had the PSS10 setup installed with H & R sway bars front and rear. The car sits more than an inch lower and is much better to drive ... more compliant and responsive. The overall ride is much improved. I have not tracked the car ... someday I will get there, however now it is mostly a garage queen that out on the weekends. After looking at all the options and possible set ups and talking to various shops and tuners, I thought the best bang for the buck was the PSS10 and I am happy I went with this.
