you guys are rated at 315, right? So essentially approx 250 ish given the loss through the system to get to the ground. He's not that far off. He was using his 99 specs where he laid down 309 to the wheels.

I still doubt you keep up w/ a well driven z06 as it's a solid mid to low 12 second car (high 11's have been recorded on stock cars) it's a TT contendor . But as stated, it all depends on who is the driver.

the C5's are laying down 330ish to the wheels out of the stock LS1.


again, are you talking about a straight line or around the track?

 

Correct, I'm talking about WHEEL HP in my 99, not CRANK HP. At the crank, I would estimate about 365-370 or so which would be 50 more than a stock C4S at the crank.

Were you guys racing in the snow?

 

WOW !! As I'm reading everyone's post, for a moment it felt like I must of been sent to ricerkidz.com ?!! I'm faster than you and you don't know what your talking about kind stuff is what you'll find with the kiddie wannabe forums but not on 6speedonline?

Racers beware, someone is always faster. I recall when my car was a high 12 second car and was walked by a beatup looking early 90s Sentra and they were filming (thank goodness I never saw that). Just give respect where respect is due and move on.

 

All I know is my C4S weighs 3241lbs and has 320 hp at crank. I have and will continue to take down c5s all day long on straight or if I can, on the track. It's not the fastest car in the world but, I'm happy with the performance.

 

You got that right, I noticed alot of new members posting in this thread defending their cars.

 

KiddJoey, we all know that someone else out there is faster, but we are talking about stock for stock in this instance.

 

I hear you Mr Kram... and math/physics proves C4S can't hang with C5. But the problem is and it rears it ugly head even further on ricer forums, is when is someone racing and who gets the jump... it's such a subjective moment because Johnny Honda tells all his friends that he walked a 996tt when in reality Mr. 996tt was sipping his coffee when Honda boy decided they were racing.

A stop light or horn beat start is the only decent street measure and how often do we do that? Generally speaking, any car that runs 12 seconds or faster will go to the one who gets the jump unless you wind it out to jail speeds.

 

Unless you have beaten a C4S in a stock C5, you're talking smack because you haven't done it. I've done it and I don't lie! That's all.

 

Well WARDHOG, trying not to get sucked in here... but I've beaten both C4S and C5 and my experience proves the math correct? The C5 gives me a closer match but again that is subjective because it wasn't a ready-set-go race with either?

I don't think anyone is calling you a liar, just probably wasn't an even race?

 

And that's why I qualified my original statement with "anything can happen on the street."

 

Markski, what you're saying is incorrect.

Did you read the March issue of European Car, when my old Protomotive 996TT ran 10.74@132.9?

Also, the Manthey Racing 996GT-MR will easily break 11's. Hell, even Koro's 4.6L GT3 will run a 10.9 without turbos....

The Shootout in Las Vegas is only a sampling of a few U.S. tuners. For example, Protomotive couldn't even have their car ready in time.

 

Straight-line talk about real sports cars designed to outbrake, outturn 99.999999 percent of cars out there...

but while we're on that topic.. i think the dude raced an automatic C5. i believe those are just as prevalent as tiptronics are in the 911 lineup (sad commentary)

 

I'm not saying no one was calling me a liar, I generally don't lie. But, I do have a site that does back up what I have been saying all along, somewhat. It does show some accurate times for a lot of cars that I have read up on. The speeds are 0-100KMP or 0-62MPH. Click on the "Tracktest." I guess I'm a 911 S or if not the 911 C4S Cab. I believe the S4 gets spanked by the 911 C4S too.
Track Challenge

 

Interesting link Wardhog.

As for the S4, can't argue stock vs stock... only not very many of us are stock

S4 timeslips
p.s. My car falls in the 12.2 to 12.5 range depending on fuel.

 

THIS THREAD IS SO GAY!