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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 05:58 PM
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Eric has 2 GTR's out of the 30 they built. I saw one of them 2 weeks ago at his house. Awesome car!
 
Old Nov 19, 2004 | 06:25 PM
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Eric has 2 GTR's out of the 30 they built. I saw one of them 2 weeks ago at his house. Awesome car!

murci's? You can't say this **** and not provide pics Stryke!!!
 
Old Nov 19, 2004 | 06:26 PM
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Originally posted by Soon2be993tt
but no reply to Neils comments :P



we all know the lambos can't survive on a track
Really? tell that to Paul Stokell who repeatedly beats Porsche and Ferrari in a Diablo GTR. Before that he did it in an Sv-R.

Murcielago failed in the Alms series due to problems with krohn and lambo. No factory support.
 
Old Nov 19, 2004 | 06:32 PM
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Really? tell that to Paul Stokell who repeatedly beats Porsche and Ferrari in a Diablo GTR. Before that he did it in an Sv-R.

Murcielago failed in the Alms series due to problems with krohn and lambo. No factory support.
It was a joke, and I tend to believe what Neil heard directly from the teams and their mechanics.










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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 06:35 PM
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The ALMS races I saw had the GT class Porsche's beating up on the GTS class Lambo on quite a few occassions.
 
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No, he has one Murci but two Diablo GTR's. Search for the thread titled "Eric's toybox" and you'll see most of his current cars. Here is a recent pic in Vegas from right to left: me, Eric, Henry and Wayne (mutual friend's of ours) taken about 2 weeks ago with the Murci in the back.

 
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 06:42 PM
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Okay, yea, i've seen his GTR's for some reason I thought you were referring to one of these new Murci R-GT's
 
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Originally posted by 996Yayo
are you referring to the Diablos? i just picked up a copy of this month's EVO magazine, and one of the articles says that the Murci RGT is currently competing in the FIA GT championship, in preparation for Le Mans 2005.
Nah, the Murci RGT, they canned the whole thing. Totally sux.
 
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and Eric is a pimp, no doubt.
 
Old Nov 20, 2004 | 09:31 AM
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Its a spaceship!
 
Old Nov 20, 2004 | 12:03 PM
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Realiability is an issue with Lambo's...See this poor guys nightmare with his Murci.


"I purchased the 2002 Murcielago during April of 2003 from Bentley Downers Grove outside of Chicago after a 6 month long exhaustive search. They trade many exotics and always seem to have a Lamborghini or two in their inventory. This was before the Lamborghini of Dallas dealership was open. With only 2,600 miles on the smooth black dash, I was overwhelmed by the appearance, stature and presents of the car. The first test drive was an out of body experience – I was driving but it felt like I was watching someone else through the small rear window from the engine compartment behind. Driving and ultimately owning a Lamborghini! - every man and boy’s dream.

My Lamborghini spent a total of 7 months out of the 18 months in the repair shop at Lamborghini of Dallas. A broken hydraulic hose resulted in its first carted trip to Dallas where it stayed for nearly two months waiting for parts ordered one at a time until the 4th part - the dash board switch, was finally determined to be the failed mechanism. Other items needing warranty repair included the faulty 5 cent catch on the overhead sunglass compartment, and a drooping driver’s side visor. They didn’t fix the visor.

Within a short period of time, I experienced more “error†lights on the suspension module and the lift system would not work 100% of the time, the A/C unit would kick off at random, and squealed when the compressor cycled on and off. Also, a very noticeable hesitation occurred at 4,700 RPM’s regardless of speed or gear. I returned the car to Dallas for repair. After approximately one month of being on blocks at the Dallas dealership, I learned that the repair shop had still not found the reason for the hesitation and had no idea of when my car would be repaired and returned to me. I notified Lamborghini USA and Italy of my ongoing problems and dissatisfaction with this vehicle, my attorney was copied.

To the credit of Lamborghini USA, and their attorneys, they did respond and John Amette was assigned to find and fix the problems. I met with John at the Dallas dealership. He was very professional and interested. He committed to spend the next 2-3 days finding the solutions to my Murcielago’s woes. Additionally, they extended my warranty for another 10 months.

They replaced the spark plug housings –– bad “O†rings had caused the block to take on water – the housings were completely rusted. That didn’t fix the hesitation. They replaced the computer and the computer relay. Finally, after another 2 weeks of unsuccessful replacement and repair, they elected to replace the throttle bodies – this fixed the hesitation. A new shock was installed and the lift system and error lights were assumed repaired. John got my visor fixed.

Within a few months, the A/C problem described earlier still existed and once again, the lift system chose to work sometimes, error lights appeared again on the suspension module. I needed to have the Texas State emissions test performed on it, but the computer wouldn’t allow a reading. I called Dallas and after a month, learned that the new computer they installed had a glitch that made emissions testing impossible. I would need to bring it back to the dealer for a new computer.

After the vehicle was at the Dallas dealership for a month, I also learned that the clutch was worn and would need replacement – after only 8,400 miles and very civilized driving. The A/C problem was "my imagination". I was also reminded by the dealer more than once that I had not purchased the vehicle from L of Dallas. ????? I'm not sure now if my overall experience would have been better or worse.

I had had enough. I asked them to make an offer to purchase the vehicle. I decided I couldn’t sell the car myself in good conscience to anyone else. So now it is for sale in San Diego. I’m not sure if the clutch has been replaced so beware. At $189.000, it is being offered at a large profit over what I unloaded it for.

This whole story reminds me of the saying – “The two happiest days of my life were brought with this vehicle - the day I bought it and the day I got rid of it.†Ownership of this Murcielago has been the most dissatisfying purchase and decision of my adult life. It was a fabulous car to look at, great fun to drive when working, but a $280,000 inexcusable mechanical failure.

To all of you Lamborghini fans and enthusiasts – good luck with your dreams and purchases. Demand that the new Lamborghini make a better product. Murcielago and Gallardo clutch problems, e-gear problems, Koni shock problems and suspension error lights seem to plague many of us – but not me anymore - I'll never own another."
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LOL! You find one story of a Murci? Wow, ive read some pretty bad stories here on Porsche reliability. I guess they must be REAL BAD!
 
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that and the fact we are talking about the race cars right now, not the road cars
 
Old Nov 20, 2004 | 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by Soon2be993tt
that and the fact we are talking about the race cars right now, not the road cars
It does matter. It's part of a bigger picture. Porsche reliability has been proven on the track and street. Per 100 cars sold, Lambo can't hold a candel to Porsche.
 
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Originally posted by Stryke
Eric has 2 GTR's out of the 30 they built. I saw one of them 2 weeks ago at his house. Awesome car!
After some of these posts, perhaps the second one is a parts car.

 
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