Alex/Todd will have to chime in on that one.

Jag

As for the LWFW its a 13lbs. I did not want to use the lighter version as Wes told me the car is pretty much undrivable. Also with the heavier flywheel the clutch will have a longer life. Finally, per Wes a rebuild is not needed every 3000 miles. On his car, they have not done a rebuild and it has 8k on the clutch.

Jag

Good info Jag but I disagree on the plate switches. TurboMike's 993tt has the same clutch in it and I've driven it many times. His tranny was dropped every 3000 miles to switch the plates and if you don't your clutches life will not be the same plus the engagement will not be the same (meaning one plate will usually be more worn out than others). Just my 2 cents bro.

The Tilton like all clutches is a wear item. That being said I've never had a clutch in a shop or personal car need the plates changed every 3,000 miles. The yellow development car just came back with 21k miles on the odometer and we installed the clutch at 12-13k miles. It's seen many trips to the drag strip, a number of street pulls, and still hasn't even had it's first wear plate changed. This is a kit designed for a 996tt by Tilton, not some custom flywheel adaptation like some of the nightmare setups I've seen out there. It removes the accumulator and converts the system to Gt2 specifications with Dot3 fluid, removing the "mushy soft" clutch feel.

With the Tilton clutches you get 3 spacers for wear before the clutch needs to be sent to Tilton for a rebuild. Normally you can get 3 rebuilds out of a clutch pack before it needs replaced. To be honest on a properly maintained and installed clutch I can count on my hand the amount of cars which have needed a rebuild If you're changing plates you're likely dealing with a material other than carbon, which to be honest I have limited experience with as we use the triple carbon and quad carbon clutch packs in all of our performance applications for durability and power holding requirements.

On this particular 996tt application we had Tilton build a custom flywheel for us with with extra weight and 150% more innertia towards the outter edge, this allows the clutch to be much more street friendly making for easier launches from a stop for those who are going to drive their cars on the street. It allows for much better engagement and decreases wear because the user isn't required to slip the clutch on ever single start. This particular clutch kit is only available through Titan Motorsports as we paid for the R&D and worked with Tilton over a few month period developing, removing, and inspecting the clutch until we felt we had a product that would last. We've got probably 50+ Supras running this clutch pack, 10-15 996tts, countless Corvettes and Vipers. This clutch has been proven in drag racing, road racing, endurance racing as being the pinaccle of clutches, and I think once you drive one and realize the power holding capabilities when properly installed, you won't want to drive any other clutch. The only downside I've ever heard of is the cost, which i will agree is expensive, however given the applications it's usually justified and a necessary improvement when dealing with mega HP applications.

My 8.5" set up was just rebuilt by them and the only reason I was asking is b/c TurboMik'es 993tt set up Tilton needs plate adjustment after 3000 miles and that's what he was told by Tilton. I was looking more for facts and what is recommended by Tilton engineering. Thanks for all the info Wes.

We run the 7.25" discs in almost all our our applications, if you've got any questions on a street setup for Tilton I suggest talking to Kirk @ Tilton. He's the most knowledgeable guy on staff about using these in a street application and will be the first to tell you that car setup, weight, driving style, all effect wear, as a result I've never had them tell me a set time period or mileage to check for wear. Tilton will tell you it's a servicable clutch that should be measured for wear from time to time but won't specify a set mileage. Speaking from experience currently I can count 8 cars in the shop with Tilton triple carbons (2 of which are 996tt), all have well over 3k miles on the clutch without even being on the first plate. One makes 1,400whp, is driven on the street quite frequently and race an entire season (going low 8s on a 6spd) without an inspection. I can't think of any other clutch that can handle that type of abuse and still be driven to the grocery store.

I think there's a lot of misconception over past setups over the wrong materials, sizes, and flywheels being used to adapt this clutch to a street car that have caused people to choose other options. We are the only company to develop and offer a street solution for this clutch pack, if we would have released our initial kit many would be saying the same things they have in the past, however with the changes and adaptations we've made with the help of Tilton engineers, we've got a great clutch that holds huge power, can be launched/slipped to all hell and back, and still driven in traffic.

Thanks for chimming in Wes.

Jag

I think Marksi has used both setups? It would be nice to have his opinion.
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Thanks Wes for taking your time to answer these questions. It's always good to have someone else's opinion and experience. That's a great quality clutch indeed for all applications.

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Thanks for the input Todd. Did you get my message?

Jag

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