996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

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Old Oct 3, 2009 | 03:23 PM
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Just wondering here... I see a lot of $ being put into engine work, turbos, suspension extras on these 996tt, just wondering why not just sell the car before putting all the money into them and maybe get a ferrari or lambo, the members here that did the upgrades.. is it your just a die hard porsche fan? dont like ferrari or lamborghini? I know some of you do it for the track, but I have also read some threads where it seems that some 996tt owners would rather have the ferrari or lambo.. maybe its just a money issue? or is it performance? I am just wondering because I also have put $ into my 996TT and will be doing turbo upgrades still.. so more $ going into it, but sometimes I just think.. dont do the upgrades, and sell the car and use the $ towards a 430 ferrari or lambo.... I'm more about the look then performance..and ferrari and lambo's turn my head a lot more then our 996tt's
 

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J. I'm more about the look then performance..and ferrari and lambo's turn my head a lot more then our 996tt's
I think you nailed it.
 
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Good luck getting a Ferrari or lambo that is as reliable and easy to mod as the 996TT. Plus the price of getting a turbo and modding it to crazy levels won't even get u close to a Ferrari!
 
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I think many people do things in stages. Maybe $10K in suspension one year, $15K in turbos & tuning another year etc etc. Hence, say the total $ spent is $50K, it is not spent all at once.

it's somewhat like a house that you do upgrades to. In retrospect, you might have been able to buy a bigger house in a different neighborhood, but thing is at the time of purchase you bought what you were comfortable with. However, if it's the house/neighborhood you want to live in for the rest of your life (or for an extended period of time), then you shouldn't worry about about the $ spent on upgrades. I think a similar logic applies to the car. Granted, you likely will only see a small or no return on the investment made in mods, but if you're going to keep the car for a while, then I think it's worth it.

Most likely if I had bought a 360 a couple of years ago, I would be planning to get a 430 now just because there was such a jump in performance. Not so with the 911 turbos.

BTW, if you really are more about the looks than the performance, I'd stop with the upgrades right now and start saving the money for a car that has the look you'd like.
 

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For me its the performance, a ferrari or lambo is just slow compared to modded pcar unless of course you want to spend huge dollars to mod them (in which case the argument you made is moot...I'd take a TT Gallardo anyday over my car).

Personally I have the opposite problem, the question is why keep spending so much on this car when I could get a vette for less money, spend less to mod it, and make more power at the end of the day.

For now I'm happy with the performance of my car and eventually might do bigger turbos to get up near 600whp, but once that wears off and I want more power I'm not sure I'll be able to get myself to pull the trigger to get the pcar to the next level.
 
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BTW, if you really are more about the looks than the performance, I'd stop with the upgrades right now and start saving the money for a car that has the look you'd like.
Pretty much sums it up...
 
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i'm not an expert on exotic cars by any stretch of the imagination, but my brother in law certainly knows a lot more than me as he has quite a few of them (diablo, gallardo, f430, 360, f40, etc). While he always goes through various cars, he has had his 02 porsche since it was new and still loves it (he has a ton of money dumped into his porsche and has about 580 hp). When I asked him the same question as I began my search for a car (as I can only afford one), he summed it up by saying that a porsche is a practical car that can be driven every day with no worries about how many miles you put on it. In contrast, the ferraris and lambos have race engines, and once you get too many miles on them (that being around the 25k range), you need to start having valve adjustments and other things done to them...and the repair bills on those cars (vs a porsche) are also a lot more expensive. So, while you could get into one of those cars for a little bit more money, you just won't be able to enjoy it as much. Should you opt to drive it every day, then your operating expenses go way up...therefore you're back into it for a lot more money than the porsche.
 
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You can buy a 308/328 for 35K or so, but maintenance on those cars is extremely expensive. Services on a 355 require the engine to be pulled. Imagine how much that costs. Early 360s, '99, '00 can be had for ~75. '01 turbos on the low end are selling for low to mid 30s. That delta is more than a bit. The Porsche tax for repairs and services pales in comparison to the F-car tax. Not even on the same planet.

It's not the cost of entry, it's the cost of ownership. Well...I guess it's the cost of entry also. Go to Fchat.com and read what some of those guys spend for repairs.
 
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The older ferrari and lambo's I agree need special attention with service etc, I have a 1984 308 and I have a 1989 countach both since new, I'm talking new ferrari and lambo's.. they dont need special service,I had a 05 gallardo that needed no repairs while I owned it, could have been driven everyday just as my 996tt with one exception.. it drew too much attention.. a pearl yellow lambo, doesn't really blend in... and it was a 6 speed, I dont like shifting.. if it was an e-gear I might still have it..The new Ferrari 458 looks pretty sweet..
 
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Boca you're big baller. Not everyone who can afford a 996TT with mods can step up to a new lambo or Ferrari. That's a huge leap.
 
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onetime, I never said I was looking to buy a BRAND new one, I was just asking why most guys on here put so much into the 996tt, instead of buying a ferrari or lambo, and then I did ask if it was because of money or if they just love the 996tt over other cars...
 
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gee my tuner just finished a rebuild on an f40,(my dream car) and he said my car was asfast or faster he brought this up while i was drooling, not to mention that f cars seem to break alot as do lambos i love em both and if i had the exta bucks i'd buy a lambo e gear just for drill...... and f cars sound soooooooo good if i could make my p sound like that .............
 
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The true exotics are too fragile and attract too much attention from those you don't want it from (guys and low class ricer cars). And the mileage penalties for actually DRIVING the cars are too severe.

The Porsche Turbo on the other hand is a great platform for keeping up with ever more powerful cars.

The only car with similar attributes are Vipers, except they are a collision waiting to happen.
 


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