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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 07:13 AM
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Originally posted by C4S Surgeon
That car looks more 'badass' than ANY F car or even the CGT IMO!
Sorry guys!
Looks like a Pinto when compared to an Enzo, imo...

If you looked closely at a CGT in person, the Ford does NOT compare, if quality and technical wizardry is of interest to you...
 
Old Dec 23, 2004 | 07:20 AM
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Yeah the plastic in the CGT is much nicer.
 
Old Dec 23, 2004 | 07:24 AM
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Originally posted by C4S Surgeon
Yeah the plastic in the CGT is much nicer.
Not to get in a pissing match since it really isn't necessary to spell out the superiority of the aforementioned cars, but the interior of the Phord has to be the cheapest plastic interior I have ever seen and those seats....
 
Old Dec 23, 2004 | 07:40 AM
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Pissssssss..... The Ford GT rocks!
 
Old Dec 23, 2004 | 07:45 AM
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Originally posted by C4S Surgeon
Pissssssss..... The Ford GT rocks!
Perhaps....

The speculators trying to get 200-250K on the other hand will be in for a surprise....used Ford GT's will be had for 100K in just a couple years if not less...just my opinion of course...

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I agree the GT is overpriced, but so are all these cars (450kCGT??), I hope they do drop, I'll probably pick one up as a toy then.
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Originally posted by C4S Surgeon
Yeah the plastic in the CGT is much nicer.
Specifically, what plastic are you referring to? All I see is lots of leather, expensive carbon fiber and magnesium which is probably why the Ford is a porker relative to the CGT.
 

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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 08:17 AM
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C4S Surgeon wrote:
The Ford GT is an awsome machine, this is a minor glitch. Remember, Porsche is not without it's own problems; RMS, PCCB, and Lord knows what on the CGT.
Earlier this yr I almost bought one for 167K, should've pulled the trigger. I just couldn't see paying anything over sticker, then they said the delivery would be delayed 6-8mo bc of the cylinder head problem, at that point I bailed and spent the cash on my house instead.
BTW, it's First On Race Day, Ford has a greater racing tradition with more victories than any import manufacturer, including porsche. The GT would spank most F cars and high end P cars without much trouble. Let's not get too arrogant about our Porsches guys. Off my soapbox.

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What would you guys do if the FORD GT had a MSRP of $85,000 and a 7 year "BUMPER to BUMPER" warranty and FORD was racing and Smoking everyone in SCCA Speedvision World Challenge and competing and doing well against Corvette in ALMS? What is the FORD GT was a convertible?
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"The GT would spank most F cars and high end P cars without much trouble."

Track tests have it being competitive with (though absolutely NOT spanking) the GT3RS and Ferrari Stradale (both MSRPs not far off the Ford pace). The Ford doesn't want to play any higher up than that or it starts looking silly pretty quickly. It's a great car though and I personally don't understand all the knocking on it just because it's a Ford. Again, my F150 was a lot better thought out than our Cayenne TT and the reliability and relative problems evidences this.
 
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I find it interesting that there have been 150 Ford GT's delivered to customers through November 2004. There have only been 148 CGT's delivered (to the retail public) in the same time. Of course the dealer inventory of CGT's is rather bloated (for $400,000+ vehicle). While the Ford GT is sold out.
 
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What would you guys do if the FORD GT had a MSRP of $85,000 and a 7 year "BUMPER to BUMPER" warranty
I would buy one!!!
 
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Joe, well said, BTW when are you guys coming out with the bypass pipes for a C4S?
Ben, the CGT is a great car, but at least the one I sat in at the dealer had a tad too much plastic interior peices for a 1/2 mil car, JMO
Honestly, even if money was no object, I wouild still take the Ford GT over a CGT or F car. I just like the look better, JM.02
 
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Originally posted by Dock (Atlanta)
I have several friends who have '03 Cobras, and they all have had multiple problems. Two of them have had their cars in for work over 18 times each.
3 out of 5 of the new 7 series BMW's in my family have been lemoned


just to put things in perspective
 
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Originally posted by C4S Surgeon
Ben, the CGT is a great car, but at least the one I sat in at the dealer had a tad too much plastic interior peices for a 1/2 mil car, JMO
Again, what plastic specifically are you referring to? Lemme know and I'll go out in the garage and check it out because I sure don't remember seeing it and I've sat in it more than once.
 
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Originally posted by Y65MPH
I find it interesting that there have been 150 Ford GT's delivered to customers through November 2004. There have only been 148 CGT's delivered (to the retail public) in the same time. Of course the dealer inventory of CGT's is rather bloated (for $400,000+ vehicle). While the Ford GT is sold out.
Speaking of bloated inventories, it seems about 2/3rd of Ford GT production is in dealer hands awaiting "auctioning":

"The recall affects the 448 GTs produced this year. Of those, 289 have been shipped to dealerships, and 106 are in customers' hands."

Not exactly what I call "sold out". As well, the $250K asking price for those 2/3rd of production ain't exactly cheap.

Incidentally, is that 148 CGT customer delivery # worldwide since the Ford GT is about 99% a U.S. only car. Dividing their respective numbers over their addressable markets puts things in perspective almost as much as their respective absolute planned production numbers.
 

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