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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 11:42 PM
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I'm thinking maybe a few design ideas were borrowed from the DB9.
A few? I think they just bought a DB9 and went from there.
 
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A few? I think they just bought a DB9 and went from there.

they all look the same nowadays... isn't the new Jag the same shape too?
 
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Lose the front grill!
 
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3900 lbs! I like the exterior but man..that interior is fugly!
 
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They need to get rid of the stupid retro lines in the hood in front of the air exits. They put those on the Crossfire too and they look stupid!
 
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I bet it will be built of of an SLR
 
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3900 lbs! I like the exterior but man..that interior is fugly!
From what I read it was going to be about 3400lbs, not 3800lbs. 800 lbs lighter than the 300C
 
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Its nice but indeed somewhat unoriginal (oo Astonish)
 
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I think it looks great, I would not a big fan of the interior if they keep it the same.
 
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I saw it at NAIAS and it looks much much better in person.
 
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I like it a lot.

Something that I don't really understand about American concept cars is what Gm did this year. They came out with these two really cool looking cars and they put a SATURN badge on them???

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Saturn originally was meant to compete with the european brands, but somehow shyed away from their original intent. The first pic looks a lot like the new RL. I believe the second pic is of the Saturn Sky which is based on the Pontiac Solstice.

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Originally posted by LSM
Saturn originally was meant to compete with the european brands, but somehow shyed away from their original intent. The first pic looks a lot like the new RL. I believe the second pic is of the Saturn Sky which is based on the Pontiac Solstice.

Lou
These interiors show the first influences of Ann Ascensio, who was brought in with much fanfare from Renault a few years ago to transform production GM interiors , not just sylistically, but more important ( from our shared experiences with their crappy rental cars ) , in terms of materials quality. We'll see.
 
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I don't see that baby going into production anytime soon...Just too concept car-ish for a release, at least in the next 2-3 years, imho...
I respectfully differ in opinion. The ME 4 12 will not be built. Everyone loved it but they wouldn't line up to buy the space shuttle from piper cub. So they are serious at a much lower priced car squarely at the older vette owner as well as the more wealthy "what about an Aston Martin, oh, that is too expensive." I think they will make it in two years and it is mostly off the shelf parts of the dying viper orders. I love the F-50 / GT 40 type hood.
Overall, I think it is rather cool and kudos to the American designers for putting out something that we can talk about. You know, 10 years ago, we made NOTHING interesting. Remember? And these Chrysler guys have done a lot to bring back old american style as well as fresh new stuff. They will have to change the name, though, because right now the exclamation point is part of the name: Firepower! Yuck.
 

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Originally posted by james
I respectfully differ in opinion. The ME 4 12 will not be built. Everyone loved it but they wouldn't line up to buy the space shuttle from piper cub. So they are serious at a much lower priced car squarely at the older vette owner as well as the more wealthy "what about an Aston Martin, oh, that is too expensive." I think they will make it in two years and it is mostly off the shelf parts of the dying viper orders. I love the F-50 / GT 40 type hood.
Overall, I think it is rather cool and kudos to the American designers for putting out something that we can talk about. You know, 10 years ago, we made NOTHING interesting. Remember? And these Chrysler guys have done a lot to bring back old american style as well as fresh new stuff. They will have to change the name, though, because right now the exclamation point is part of the name: Firepower! Yuck.
I couldn't agree more with your assessments. And yes, they are going to build the firepower albeit with a different name.........I hope!!

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