Originally Posted by heavychevy
(Post 2923423)
Chevy put the same interior in the C6, Z06, then ZR-1 and someone actually thinks they will EVER get an interior right. Maybe if they let Caddy design it then source it out to somewhere in Europe maybe, but they haven't even made a step in the right direction with the interior.
And yes, I agree on the rest of the car too. Come on Dez - Really. You're going to attack the interior of the car. How does that affect the time from 0-300 km/h. Not that I don't agree with you on the interior but I don't see it changing anytime soon. The ZR1 is by all standards a damn fast car and for the money a pretty nice one. ZR1 rated 638 bhp - probably a pretty accurate rating considering the dynos that have been posted. GT2RS rated at 620 bhp. We all know that this is probably not accurate. Porsche is famous for understating power levels. GT2RS @ $266k - ZR1 @ $118k (you can get one at $105K). I think the GT2RS is an incredible car but I think I'd take a ZR1 and throw in a TT Gallardo for that money. On a side note - If Chevy built a corvette that cost $250k don't you think the interior would be Ferrari quality and the car would be stupid fast. |
Originally Posted by AtomicZ
(Post 2923624)
Come on Dez - Really. You're going to attack the interior of the car. How does that affect the time from 0-300 km/h. Not that I don't agree with you on the interior but I don't see it changing anytime soon.
The ZR1 is by all standards a damn fast car and for the money a pretty nice one. ZR1 rated 638 bhp - probably a pretty accurate rating considering the dynos that have been posted. GT2RS rated at 620 bhp. We all know that this is probably not accurate. Porsche is famous for understating power levels. GT2RS @ $266k - ZR1 @ $118k (you can get one at $105K). I think the GT2RS is an incredible car but I think I'd take a ZR1 and throw in a TT Gallardo for that money. On a side note - If Chevy built a corvette that cost $250k don't you think the interior would be Ferrari quality and the car would be stupid fast. While I have been a Chevy guy my whole life (as chevy/ford/mopar goes), I have owned 4 vettes, a 1980, a 87 Callaway, an 89 Procharged car and a 98 C5 with a single turbo. While each car was considerably better as they got newer, the interior improvements is by far the least improved, as far as quality goes....Just my opinion, sorry |
Originally Posted by ttboost
(Post 2923638)
While I have been a Chevy guy my whole life (as chevy/ford/mopar goes), I have owned 4 vettes, a 1980, a 87 Callaway, an 89 Procharged car and a 98 C5 with a single turbo. While each car was considerably better as they got newer, the interior improvements is by far the least improved, as far as quality goes....Just my opinion, sorry
Is it Porsche quality - NO. Will it ever be - probably not. The interior quality of our '08 Z06 with the upgraded leather is on par with my '02 Porsche GT2. But we are talking a car that is 6 years newer having as nice of quality as the previous generation 911. Porsche has always had better quality interiors and the whole car for that matter. The price also reflects the differences. If someone wanted to they can have a damn nice interior in a vette. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...620-20Copy.jpg |
We'll just have to agree to agree...:D
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[quote=AtomicZ;2923624]Come on Dez - Really. You're going to attack the interior of the car. How does that affect the time from 0-300 km/h.
Come on AtomicZ,the interior is pure AEREODINAMICS:D Dez is righthilarious |
Originally Posted by AtomicZ
(Post 2923657)
If someone wanted to they can have a damn nice interior in a vette.
http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/39...600x600Q85.jpg http://inlinethumb11.webshots.com/44...600x600Q85.jpg Notice the cloned 996 GT3 seats. :) |
Eric, chill man, I was just replying to the comment that Chevy would get the interior right someday and they won't. The interior will never be sporty from the factory because there are too many middle aged and up people who have no business getting in a car that low with Corvette's. That is the bulk of the market.
I'm not bashing the ZR-1, no need to get defensive. I have the utmost respect for Corvette's even though mine was turned into a piece of junk by a crappy tuner. I still miss what that car was and should have been. But the fact remains that build quality is not a strong suite for GM. I do not think highly of the ZR-1 because it has a supercharger. I would take a Z06 with a fully built forged NA 427 at 600 hp, better gear ratios, tires and brakes over the ZR-1 all day long. Add in a slightly better suspension and it would be a better car all day long. And yes I'd still take a GT2 RS over a ZR-1/TT Gallardo combination. I don't like Lambo's. But as I've always said, I will NEVER EVER EVER buy a Porsche new so 260k would be out anyways.
Originally Posted by AtomicZ
(Post 2923624)
Come on Dez - Really. You're going to attack the interior of the car. How does that affect the time from 0-300 km/h. Not that I don't agree with you on the interior but I don't see it changing anytime soon.
The ZR1 is by all standards a damn fast car and for the money a pretty nice one. ZR1 rated 638 bhp - probably a pretty accurate rating considering the dynos that have been posted. GT2RS rated at 620 bhp. We all know that this is probably not accurate. Porsche is famous for understating power levels. GT2RS @ $266k - ZR1 @ $118k (you can get one at $105K). I think the GT2RS is an incredible car but I think I'd take a ZR1 and throw in a TT Gallardo for that money. On a side note - If Chevy built a corvette that cost $250k don't you think the interior would be Ferrari quality and the car would be stupid fast. |
Originally Posted by ttboost
(Post 2923669)
We'll just have to agree to agree...:D
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Originally Posted by AtomicZ
(Post 2923624)
Come on Dez - Really. You're going to attack the interior of the car. How does that affect the time from 0-300 km/h.
Come on AtomicZ,the interior is pure AEREODINAMICS:D Dez is righthilarious
Originally Posted by bbywu
(Post 2923717)
Agreed (although build quality can't necessarily be improved upon by better interior pieces.)
Notice the cloned 996 GT3 seats. :) I'm not sure Porsche was the originator of that style of seat. |
Dez - No worries. I'm just having fun with a topic that has been beat in the ground way too many times.
Originally Posted by heavychevy
(Post 2923801)
Eric, chill man, I was just replying to the comment that Chevy would get the interior right someday and they won't. The interior will never be sporty from the factory because there are too many middle aged and up people who have no business getting in a car that low with Corvette's. That is the bulk of the market.
No arguements here. I think Chevy could do the build quality - interior and the overall car. The problem is the Z06 would cost $125k and the ZR1 would be $150k. No one is going to buy a Corvette at those values. The ZR1 looks just too much like the base model for most people. The GT2RS will also look like a base model 911 to most people but somehow Porsche is able to sell them for ridiculous values. I still can't believe that someone paid $185K back in 2002 for the GT2 sitting in my shop now for less than half. I'm not bashing the ZR-1, no need to get defensive. I have the utmost respect for Corvette's even though mine was turned into a piece of junk by a crappy tuner. I still miss what that car was and should have been. But the fact remains that build quality is not a strong suite for GM. I'm not defensive or offended. I just wanted to give you some grief for playing the lousy interior card on a speed/performance thread. Someone was going to do it I just didn't think it would be you. I do not think highly of the ZR-1 because it has a supercharger. I would take a Z06 with a fully built forged NA 427 at 600 hp, better gear ratios, tires and brakes over the ZR-1 all day long. Add in a slightly better suspension and it would be a better car all day long. Amen brother. For a track car I will take my Z06 over a ZR1 everyday of the week. I have no problems on the road course against the ZR1. And yes I'd still take a GT2 RS over a ZR-1/TT Gallardo combination. I don't like Lambo's. But as I've always said, I will NEVER EVER EVER buy a Porsche new so 260k would be out anyways. Taking a GT2RS over the ZR1/TT Gallardo combo is your right. To each their own. Hopefully someday in the future I will have the opportunity to trade up my 996 GT2 to the GT2RS. It will be awhile at those values though. |
That is a bad ass interior! Nice seats! Who makes that seat?
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Ari, if you are referring to the pics I posted, Caravaggio is the supplier.
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Eric, I didn't play any interior card, I was responding to a post on the first page. Interior has nothing to do with performance. You're making it hard to believe you're not offended in someway. Especially to turn around and play the bang vs buck card.
And the Corvette with a decent interior would not cost 125k. Not even close. The actual design of the interior is fine IMO, it's the quality of materials and quality control on the assembly line. Like I said, even a caddy designed interior would be ok (for how long who knows) but it would suffice. |
Originally Posted by heavychevy
(Post 2923801)
I do not think highly of the ZR-1 because it has a supercharger. I would take a Z06 with a fully built forged NA 427 at 600 hp, better gear ratios, tires and brakes over the ZR-1 all day long. Add in a slightly better suspension and it would be a better car all day long.
And yes I'd still take a GT2 RS over a ZR-1/TT Gallardo combination. I don't like Lambo's. But as I've always said, I will NEVER EVER EVER buy a Porsche new so 260k would be out anyways. That Z06 you describe above sounds perfect. |
Originally Posted by AtomicZ
(Post 2923905)
Dez - No worries. I'm just having fun with a topic that has been beat in the ground way too many times.
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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
(Post 2924432)
Wow. Agreed.
I'm shocked. Three things in a row we actually agree on! What's the world coming to?! That Z06 you describe above sounds perfect. |
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