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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by rdss
Alex listen to a Romanian guy......he knows the competition up there.
I am not listening to him!!! he will want to buy my car with all the "goodies", like he did with my M3
 
Old Aug 19, 2010 | 04:53 PM
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I am not listening to him!!! he will want to buy my car with all the "goodies", like he did with my M3
He must be very smart guy,but you don't listen him ANY MORE.I¡ll be your

advicer

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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 07:37 PM
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Alex, that guys power curve smells fishy. in all HP/TQ curves the hp and tq curves cross each other at 5250 rpm(5250 is the constant in the calculated relationship between hp and tq). In the curve you posted they not only do not cross each other but they mirror each other. Very strange. someone has played with this curve on photoshop as this is not possible
 
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Originally Posted by Prche951
Alex, that guys power curve smells fishy. in all HP/TQ curves the hp and tq curves cross each other at 5250 rpm(5250 is the constant in the calculated relationship between hp and tq). In the curve you posted they not only do not cross each other but they mirror each other. Very strange. someone has played with this curve on photoshop as this is not possible
exactly !!! **** looks fishy...
 
Old Aug 19, 2010 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Prche951
Alex, that guys power curve smells fishy. in all HP/TQ curves the hp and tq curves cross each other at 5250 rpm(5250 is the constant in the calculated relationship between hp and tq). In the curve you posted they not only do not cross each other but they mirror each other. Very strange. someone has played with this curve on photoshop as this is not possible
Dennis you and unvmy996 are right that curve is fake.......but we have to

wait until tomorrow because Alex is asleep right now in Romania.

Alex should run that guy of the E36 maybe the car doesn't have 620bhp either
 
Old Aug 20, 2010 | 12:47 AM
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Guys,
I was asking that question much earlier back but no one could be ars*d to reply. ?? However I worked it out on my own. If you convert the TQ from NM to ft/lds I have found they do cross. Remember 721 nm is only 532 ft/lbs.
I have noticed his power is measured in KM. not KW or HP . What unit is that??
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Originally Posted by Prche951
Alex, that guys power curve smells fishy. in all HP/TQ curves the hp and tq curves cross each other at 5250 rpm(5250 is the constant in the calculated relationship between hp and tq). In the curve you posted they not only do not cross each other but they mirror each other. Very strange. someone has played with this curve on photoshop as this is not possible
I don't know what to say about this but I know that his car is pulling HARD, he beat a 997tt with ecu-exhaust-intercoolers, GTR with HKS570 kit, Audi RS6 730hp from MTM...
I am not into the dynos

Originally Posted by rdss
Dennis you and unvmy996 are right that curve is fake.......but we have to

wait until tomorrow because Alex is asleep right now in Romania.

Alex should run that guy of the E36 maybe the car doesn't have 620bhp either


Originally Posted by Sunnyside
Guys,
I was asking that question much earlier back but no one could be ars*d to reply. ?? However I worked it out on my own. If you convert the TQ from NM to ft/lds I have found they do cross. Remember 721 nm is only 532 ft/lbs.
I have noticed his power is measured in KM. not KW or HP . What unit is that??
Frank
Frank, we don't have other power measurement KW and Nm and I don't know this stuff about dynos and graphs.

Thanks guys!
 
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Originally Posted by alex55
I don't know what to say about this but I know that his car is pulling HARD, he beat a 997tt with ecu-exhaust-intercoolers, GTR with HKS570 kit, Audi RS6 730hp from MTM...
I am not into the dynos







Frank, we don't have other power measurement KW and Nm and I don't know this stuff about dynos and graphs.

Thanks guys!
Just wiki'ed KM: Horsepower (HP) is the name of several units of measurement of power. .... the Polish koń mechaniczny (KM).

The Car is not overly powerful compared to some 996tt's and hasn't got a huge amount of TQ but if it only weighs 1200 kg ........Ouch, its going to be quick.
My last Rally car,Escort Rs Cosworth gp A had a 34mm turbo restrictor and would only pull about 330 bhp but about 400ft/lbs torque. It only weighed 1150 kg. That would give my 996tt a good run. Weight will, be the winning factor with this Car.
There is only one way to find out .........run it.
Frank
 
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Just wiki'ed KM: Horsepower (HP) is the name of several units of measurement of power. .... the Polish koń mechaniczny (KM).

The Car is not overly powerful compared to some 996tt's and hasn't got a huge amount of TQ but if it only weighs 1200 kg ........Ouch, its going to be quick.
My last Rally car,Escort Rs Cosworth gp A had a 34mm turbo restrictor and would only pull about 330 bhp but about 400ft/lbs torque. It only weighed 1150 kg. That would give my 996tt a good run. Weight will, be the winning factor with this Car.
There is only one way to find out .........run it.
Frank
I will run him to see the difference.

Thanks Frank!
 
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MrBlonde has an Z3 M Coupe with a race weight of 3100 that was making 620 bhp est at the crank (pulled 360 rwkw) and it trapped 134 mph might give you some idea?
 
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Originally Posted by Sunnyside
Guys,
I was asking that question much earlier back but no one could be ars*d to reply. ?? However I worked it out on my own. If you convert the TQ from NM to ft/lds I have found they do cross. Remember 721 nm is only 532 ft/lbs.
I have noticed his power is measured in KM. not KW or HP . What unit is that??
Frank

thanks for sharing i was beginning to wonder myself
 
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yup makes sense now. Different units shifts everything. But it now looks like greek to me
 
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Alex, hook us up with some pics of the e30 please: )
 
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he beat a 997tt with ecu-exhaust-intercoolers, GTR with HKS570 kit, Audi RS6 730hp from MTM
It would be very hard if you have only Tune+exhaust. (I guess from your sig.) Our car are full weight at 3600lb (1636kg.), you are 36% handicapped by weight. So say even he has 500 whp, you still need to have 681 whp for the same power/weight ratio. I really think you need 750whp to be in the game with him.
 
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Originally Posted by kwei
Alex, hook us up with some pics of the e30 please: )
here you go: (sorry i couldn't upload them, i don't know what is the problem) here are some links with the pics

http://194.88.148.108/7f/6f/b4/3c/DSC05077.JPG
http://194.88.148.41/?mmid=a39618d5efc8bbbb0
http://194.88.148.40/?mmid=91e25340d7187c5c2
http://194.88.148.40/?mmid=954b67f01688ddf54

the engine is the S50B30 with all the good things + gt42, this is what i know.
 


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