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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 06:43 AM
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Do not use the O2 extenders on the primary O2's.. Ever!
 
Old Nov 23, 2010 | 08:02 AM
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hi, sorry about the long delay in my responses... its not an official porsche dealer, its actually a lotus dealership. I decided to do nothing for now, im trying to find a local shop that can look into flashing the ECU for me.... i really only want to do it if its definitely going to fix my CEL problem. Im in the NY, long island area if anyone knows a good place.
 
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Originally Posted by Prche951
disconnect the battery for 20 minutes. reconnect and you should be good if it indeed was your O2's.
That's what i do and works right.
 
Old Nov 23, 2010 | 04:35 PM
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Mike,

High flow cats go bad all the time.. They need to be changed.. You can flash the car and remove the secondary O2's but you can not pass a New York state inspection. PM me if you would like more info on that..
 
Old Nov 23, 2010 | 06:15 PM
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Im experiencing this exact problem now. I have an aftermarket exhaust. all 4 o2's were replaced less than 5,000miles ago.

Im getting a P0430 + P0420 cel.

Im gonna try solving the problem with the extesions. Anyone know where I can find a good DIY write on how to install the O2 extentions?
 
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Pretty simple, take out the 02s, put them in and the put the 02s in the extensions.
 
Old Nov 23, 2010 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim941NYC
crappy, cheap, High flow cats go bad all the time.. They need to be changed.. .

Fixed.

Not all cats are equal. Cheap cats on cheap aftermarket exhausts will not last as long as high quality cats.

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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Hogapalooza
Pretty simple, take out the 02s, put them in and the put the 02s in the extensions.
Any chance u could post a quick pic of your exhaust/cats with the extensions installed?

Thanks!
 
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI@911tuning
we can flash it and turn the post o2s off...
and if your a market of a badd *** exhaust met me know
good luck,
markski

http://www.911tuning.com/996-Turbo/Exhaust-c-63.html

Markski will the vehicle pass emissions testing if you turn off the post cat O2's via flash? Will all the readiness monitors set for an OBDII emissions test?
 
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Markski will the vehicle pass emissions testing if you turn off the post cat O2's via flash? Will all the readiness monitors set for an OBDII emissions test?
Not a chance.. It's been a while since I messed with it but I believe there is 8 items that need to be ready for OBDII and with both rear O2's out you will get 6 out of 8 and you will fail.
 
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Originally Posted by Tim941NYC
Not a chance.. It's been a while since I messed with it but I believe there is 8 items that need to be ready for OBDII and with both rear O2's out you will get 6 out of 8 and you will fail.
I thought the O2s readiness was sensed as a pair. So disabling via flash gives you only one, and you will pass. HOWEVER, it can be a PITA to get the car to set all the OTHER readiness codes.
 
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Originally Posted by ard
I thought the O2s readiness was sensed as a pair. So disabling via flash gives you only one, and you will pass. HOWEVER, it can be a PITA to get the car to set all the OTHER readiness codes.
If all the non continuous readiness monitors have not completed successfully (or passed) the vehicle will never pass OBDII emissions testing even if there are no fault codes stored. Some emissions testing programs will allow only ONE non completed monitor for a passing emissions test.
 
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Originally Posted by Big H
If all the non continuous readiness monitors have not completed successfully (or passed) the vehicle will never pass OBDII emissions testing even if there are no fault codes stored. Some emissions testing programs will allow only ONE non completed monitor for a passing emissions test.
I'm not arguing, just don't understand.

The first statement seems to indicate ALL 'non continuous readiness codes' must be set.

Then you say that some states allow One non completed to pass.

Not sure what this means

Thx
 
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Originally Posted by ard
I'm not arguing, just don't understand.

The first statement seems to indicate ALL 'non continuous readiness codes' must be set.

Then you say that some states allow One non completed to pass.

Not sure what this means

Thx

Ard if the system is functioning correctly all the continuous and non continuous readiness monitors will all eventually complete and/or pass. There are instances where emissions testing programs will allow a vehicle to pass even with one monitor not yet completed. I don't know exactly in what states.

My initial question was for Markski regarding the elimination of downstream oxygen sensors via flash and effects on readiness status.

I hope this answers your question
 
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big H,

My rear O2's are flashed out and car will not pass NY state inspection. I have to put on cats flash back the O2's and then give it some miles for it to be ready. then get my inspection.
 


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