Wouldn't most if not all 02's still be under warranty?? Unless they were over for milage...

 

Car was still under warranty at the time.

They pulled down the rpm's and found many range 1 and range 2 hits.

They insisted that the number of range 2 hits(downshifts) lead to the engine failure and would not cover it due to supposed racing or abuse. They looked to see if the ECU had been out of the car, which it had. They can and will deny claims if they suspect abuse or racing. Too bad, I will never own a P-car again after this ordeal.

 

Todd thats horrible, were you ever able to get anything out of them.

Thanx for the replys, i am most likely going to pick one up at a dealer auction so, there is very little chance to get an certified waranty. If it is a 2002 then i will prob have some life left.

Is there a way to get a warranty on a car i buy from a dealer auction?

im looking to possibly get one in the mid 60s in oct/november

 

Buy an insurance policy that covers bumper to bumper similar to a new car warranty.

 

In fear of re-opening a long debate, it does seem like if there are many over revs, range one and two, you can see how they think you're racing. Were they missed shifts? What kind of driving are you doing that you are over-revving so much?

I'm thinking in my karts, there is a pretty limited warranty, you are buying a race motor, and you know the risk of racing. If you have an off at the track or someone else hits you, it's coming out of your pocket. The guy that hit you is not paying to fix your race car. Same with a motor and missed shifts. Maybe p-cars should come with a sequential gearbox (F1 style).

 

Although I don't know the details on what they call over-revs and such, being pissed at the manufacturer for not covering the driver's lack of skill is ridiculous.

If you can't shift, buy a Tiptronic.

Porsche or Ford or Benz, if you slam in the rev-limiter on a downshift, you're pushing the engine towards the garbage can.

There's a guy called Pierre, from Switzerland who has his car around 180 000 km right now. He posts once in a while.

 

Actually I think he's driven it more than 200.000 km's

 

That's likely, I couldn't remember the last update

 

I personally saw a 2004 TT at the dealer with a blown engine. It had only 240 miles. the car was chipped by porsche exchange in highland park illinois- just outside chicago. Not going to mention wich dealer it was at.. but my friend is the service manager- he pulled out a EVOMS ecu... showed it me. I'm not putting Evoms down at all. The guy logged 60K hours of over revs.... I think that number get devided by 24 or something.... what ever the case.... I saw a blown engiine on a brand new TT witha few hundred miles. GUESS WHAT!
He was paying for it. I think Porsche split the cost in half. So it does happen.

 

BTW, I did not ever miss a shift!!

Any of you who have flashed, changed or altered the ECU, which is basically 99% of us, when the rev limit is raised above stock, I think it was 6250, if you upshift and hit the limiter it is a range 1 hit which Porsche isn't too concerned about. The problem lies in that if you rev limit is now 6800-7200 and you downshift into a lower gear and exceed the old 6250 limit but stay within your new limit(around 7k) this gets registered as a range 2 which is what porsche is looking at. So, even if you never missed a shift you still have range 2 hits from the downshifts that go over the stock rpm limit. I never downshifted and raised the rpm's over the new 7k limit ever. Basically you need to watch the downshifts otherwise your looking at a 30-35K bill.

 

Can someone from EVO or Imagine Auto address this concern?

 

I have heard of more and more 996TT engine failures, not as prevalent obviously as the M96 fiasco but none the less they exist.

The weak link is without a doubt the bottom end.

The cranks and the rods are the weak link.

I guess the factory made the rev limit low on purpose when compared to even the Boxster and Carrera engines which go to 7200 I think.

6250 seems low IMO for a 'race' derived engine, considering that Porsche charges 51K for a new engine, the same price as many cars shouldn't they spend a little more $$ on the bottom end?

True shame to have rods bend and snap unless the engine is abused, but under normal hard use this should never happen.

When was the last time you saw a S2000 shoot a rod or crank?

Honda has the high rpm market locked up.

Now if Porsche can master the GT3 engine with it's 8200 rpm, why not bring some of that over to the 997TT engine?

No 120K car with a 51K engine should have any weak links IMO.

If so, the C6 Z06 is looking better and better...

 

Redline is 6800 rpms. There haven't been many 996TT/GT2/GT3 engine failures- let's keep this in perspective.

I empathize with toddstackey, but Porsche should not be expected to cover a modded motor. As always, there's just a little more to the story after the headline.

I thought the tuners stood behind their products. Was the tuner approached and asked to help with the repairs?

 

Your right the actual posted rev limit is 6750 rpm.

This is actually worse if the engine in question only was taken to 7000 which isn't high enough to cause a catastophic failure in itself.

Must be somehting else that lead to a failure.

Too much boost?

Too bad though.

 

I am not sure this would do you any good, but i see where you are coming from.