Deionized wash system
#31
FYI, I don't work for Mr.Clean or any related company. Spending $300 on washing system for my car from a company I am not familiar with is a hard sell. The Autodry product is only about $30 bucks and the refills are cheap. I have only bought 2 refills, with about 25 washes, which comes to about $50. I believe the crspotless also needs cartidges which are fairly costly. Not trying to bash crspotless, but I think its much more cost effective for the Mr.Clean. You do not need to use the Mr.Clean soap, you can just use your own and wash with DI. If my car's paint is starting to dull, I will be the first to return the product and let you guys know. Here is a picture (Only used PS for the plate) for proof after many Mr.Clean washes
#32
Originally posted by Garey Cooper
Just a note on home water softener systems. The main ingrediant to "wash" the water is.......salt. Here in Huntington Beach we have very "hard" water, loaded with calcium, and it spots and leaves deposits everywhere. I am not sure what the salt does as an after effect to the water thus cleansed of calcium, but it must at least add a little; salt?
Just a note on home water softener systems. The main ingrediant to "wash" the water is.......salt. Here in Huntington Beach we have very "hard" water, loaded with calcium, and it spots and leaves deposits everywhere. I am not sure what the salt does as an after effect to the water thus cleansed of calcium, but it must at least add a little; salt?
soft water systems require salt. DI is a different thing.
#33
Originally posted by Vik
FYI, I don't work for Mr.Clean or any related company. Spending $300 on washing system for my car from a company I am not familiar with is a hard sell. The Autodry product is only about $30 bucks and the refills are cheap. I have only bought 2 refills, with about 25 washes, which comes to about $50. I believe the crspotless also needs cartidges which are fairly costly. Not trying to bash crspotless, but I think its much more cost effective for the Mr.Clean. You do not need to use the Mr.Clean soap, you can just use your own and wash with DI. If my car's paint is starting to dull, I will be the first to return the product and let you guys know. Here is a picture (Only used PS for the plate) for proof after many Mr.Clean washes
FYI, I don't work for Mr.Clean or any related company. Spending $300 on washing system for my car from a company I am not familiar with is a hard sell. The Autodry product is only about $30 bucks and the refills are cheap. I have only bought 2 refills, with about 25 washes, which comes to about $50. I believe the crspotless also needs cartidges which are fairly costly. Not trying to bash crspotless, but I think its much more cost effective for the Mr.Clean. You do not need to use the Mr.Clean soap, you can just use your own and wash with DI. If my car's paint is starting to dull, I will be the first to return the product and let you guys know. Here is a picture (Only used PS for the plate) for proof after many Mr.Clean washes
Pictures dont' really prove anything, esp. on a black car. I've experienced the same that others have mentioned, the paint is very rough, it leaves a weird film on the car. I got a system for free and used it a few times before throwing it out just to give it more chances.
Needless, I'll never use it again. If you like it and it's good for you, then awesome; keep using it. It's just not nearly up to my standards.
Go look at any of the big detailer forums around and you'll hear the same results. I've yet to meet anyone that really takes care of their cars paint that has enjoyed this project.
For the normal people I bet it works great though
some other questions for you, do you wax/clay properly prep your car? Or do you just use the mr.clean all the time?
Last edited by HotRodGuy; 06-14-2005 at 06:04 PM.
#34
Originally posted by HotRodGuy
Pictures dont' really prove anything, esp. on a black car. I've experienced the same that others have mentioned, the paint is very rough, it leaves a weird film on the car. I got a system for free and used it a few times before throwing it out just to give it more chances.
Needless, I'll never use it again. If you like it and it's good for you, then awesome; keep using it. It's just not nearly up to my standards.
Go look at any of the big detailer forums around and you'll hear the same results. I've yet to meet anyone that really takes care of their cars paint that has enjoyed this project.
For the normal people I bet it works great though
Pictures dont' really prove anything, esp. on a black car. I've experienced the same that others have mentioned, the paint is very rough, it leaves a weird film on the car. I got a system for free and used it a few times before throwing it out just to give it more chances.
Needless, I'll never use it again. If you like it and it's good for you, then awesome; keep using it. It's just not nearly up to my standards.
Go look at any of the big detailer forums around and you'll hear the same results. I've yet to meet anyone that really takes care of their cars paint that has enjoyed this project.
For the normal people I bet it works great though
#35
Originally posted by Vik
I don't understand how using the DI water damages the car. I thought we went over this? I am not using their soap. Oh, I forgot you are king of detailing, since I am just a normal person
I don't understand how using the DI water damages the car. I thought we went over this? I am not using their soap. Oh, I forgot you are king of detailing, since I am just a normal person
Never said I was the king of detailing. I'm just **** about my cars paint, most people aren't, that was my reference to normal people I haven't said anything anywhere about anything damaging a car. That's not what I meant by the paint being rough and the weird film. It's just not what the results I want. As i've said, if you enjoy it, keep on using it. Everyone has their own products to achieve their results. Someone told me something a long time ago when it came to car care products "find something you like and use it often"
How do you prep your car?
#36
Mr. Clean isn’t. I used it a few times and have been very unimpressed. I couldn’t get the soap film off and didn’t wash as well.
I use Zaino car wash, which I am happiest with. I have tried so many deferent things and this has been the best solution.
I have done enough research to know the Deionized system would be preferable even if you were drying. I had asked a professional window cleaner how they cleaned the windows at a friend’s office building, which is on the second floor. He sated that they used a solution with a long handled brush from the ground and then just rinsed off. No drying. They are stunning.
I use Zaino car wash, which I am happiest with. I have tried so many deferent things and this has been the best solution.
I have done enough research to know the Deionized system would be preferable even if you were drying. I had asked a professional window cleaner how they cleaned the windows at a friend’s office building, which is on the second floor. He sated that they used a solution with a long handled brush from the ground and then just rinsed off. No drying. They are stunning.
#37
Mr. Clean is a freakin joke, you sound like you work for procter and gamble. I have been trying to keep the crspotless a secret but it looks like it's getting pretty popular. The guy I dealt with, John, was a class A gentleman and the system is the best 200 bucks I've spent on detailing supplies since I got my pc. I have a jet black M3 and have been pretty impressed so far. I will do a write up soon if anyone is interested.
#39
Ok I have had dark cars my whole life and have tried everything. For my cars I have found nothing better than plain old hand wash with a very soft mitt, using Turtle Wax Zip Wash, and drying with a drying cloth from Griotts garage.
I have tried the leaf blower route and unless you do it in a completely enclosed garage you WILL destroy your paint. I don't care what filters you can buy. The small debris on the ground will get picked up and ruin your car eventually.
The DI while quicker and somewhat effective still left spots on my black TT. Yes, it was better than not, but I want ZERO spots not just less.
I will stick with the orginal method and spend the extra 5 minutes to hand dry with a cotton towel.
I have tried the leaf blower route and unless you do it in a completely enclosed garage you WILL destroy your paint. I don't care what filters you can buy. The small debris on the ground will get picked up and ruin your car eventually.
The DI while quicker and somewhat effective still left spots on my black TT. Yes, it was better than not, but I want ZERO spots not just less.
I will stick with the orginal method and spend the extra 5 minutes to hand dry with a cotton towel.
#40
Originally posted by BlackGold
I have tried the leaf blower route and unless you do it in a completely enclosed garage you WILL destroy your paint. I don't care what filters you can buy. The small debris on the ground will get picked up and ruin your car eventually.
I have tried the leaf blower route and unless you do it in a completely enclosed garage you WILL destroy your paint. I don't care what filters you can buy. The small debris on the ground will get picked up and ruin your car eventually.
#41
Originally posted by BlackGold
Ok I have had dark cars my whole life and have tried everything. For my cars I have found nothing better than plain old hand wash with a very soft mitt, using Turtle Wax Zip Wash, and drying with a drying cloth from Griotts garage.
I have tried the leaf blower route and unless you do it in a completely enclosed garage you WILL destroy your paint. I don't care what filters you can buy. The small debris on the ground will get picked up and ruin your car eventually.
The DI while quicker and somewhat effective still left spots on my black TT. Yes, it was better than not, but I want ZERO spots not just less.
I will stick with the orginal method and spend the extra 5 minutes to hand dry with a cotton towel.
Ok I have had dark cars my whole life and have tried everything. For my cars I have found nothing better than plain old hand wash with a very soft mitt, using Turtle Wax Zip Wash, and drying with a drying cloth from Griotts garage.
I have tried the leaf blower route and unless you do it in a completely enclosed garage you WILL destroy your paint. I don't care what filters you can buy. The small debris on the ground will get picked up and ruin your car eventually.
The DI while quicker and somewhat effective still left spots on my black TT. Yes, it was better than not, but I want ZERO spots not just less.
I will stick with the orginal method and spend the extra 5 minutes to hand dry with a cotton towel.
Alamein,
The results are guaranteed, if you don't like it send the kit back to John for your money back pure and simple. There are no minerals in DI water so there is no reason for it to leave any spots. I was kidding about the secret part.
#42
Originally posted by Jet
Mr. Clean is a freakin joke, you sound like you work for procter and gamble. I have been trying to keep the crspotless a secret but it looks like it's getting pretty popular. The guy I dealt with, John, was a class A gentleman and the system is the best 200 bucks I've spent on detailing supplies since I got my pc. I have a jet black M3 and have been pretty impressed so far. I will do a write up soon if anyone is interested.
Mr. Clean is a freakin joke, you sound like you work for procter and gamble. I have been trying to keep the crspotless a secret but it looks like it's getting pretty popular. The guy I dealt with, John, was a class A gentleman and the system is the best 200 bucks I've spent on detailing supplies since I got my pc. I have a jet black M3 and have been pretty impressed so far. I will do a write up soon if anyone is interested.
#44
Originally posted by Jet
I love this post. Rockitman is correct, what are you doing blowing things onto the car? Some would describe your car wash method a little archaic but more power to you. I doubt you used a quality DI system as they do not leave any spots whatsoever even in direct sunlight though. If you feel like stimulating your mind, visit a detailing forum, you'd be surprised what you learn.
I love this post. Rockitman is correct, what are you doing blowing things onto the car? Some would describe your car wash method a little archaic but more power to you. I doubt you used a quality DI system as they do not leave any spots whatsoever even in direct sunlight though. If you feel like stimulating your mind, visit a detailing forum, you'd be surprised what you learn.
Last edited by GENERAL LEE; 06-16-2005 at 05:47 AM.