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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 11:31 AM
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Interesting,
Ask Shank about this one. My '03 cobra (501rwhp 484rwtq coupe) pulled on Shank's Gallardo (e-gear) from about 60-180 (put 1-1.5 cars on the gallardo)...................

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I have a feeling that the Cobra guy was lying about his RWHP in all honesty. It wasn't even close. A gallardo traps in the 117-118mph area in the 1/4, if I remember correctly. A true 500rwhp Cobra should be in the 120s, at least.
 
Old Jul 28, 2005 | 11:35 AM
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Agree...
 
Old Jul 28, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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The gallardo is such a hot car. Wish I could afford one.
 
Old Jul 28, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by Ruiner
I have a feeling that the Cobra guy was lying about his RWHP in all honesty. It wasn't even close. A gallardo traps in the 117-118mph area in the 1/4, if I remember correctly. A true 500rwhp Cobra should be in the 120s, at least.
Agreed as well, cause in all actuallity I was not quite at 501rwhp when Shank and I raced. (I had a bad tune, for reference on that tune against my buddy's 98GTS viper he would put about 3 cars on me in 3rd gear, after new tune we were even. I raced shank on bad tune). It was interesting though, I expected the Gallardo to start pulling at the real high speeds, but it never did.

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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 01:02 PM
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The Cobra was just recently dynoed, and the Gallardo has a Tubi exhaust.
 
Old Jul 28, 2005 | 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by allanlambo
The Cobra was just recently dynoed, and the Gallardo has a Tubi exhaust.
Tubi would obviously help, only thing I can think of is the trans on the Gallardo. Was it an e-gear or standard. I know the E-gear is quite heavy on the Gallardo (like 200 lbs more) and that will make way more difference than the 20hp the tubi would give, when comparing my run with shank to this run.
 
Old Jul 28, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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Also for reference, I ran a silver Murci in chi-town from a like 50 roll and sat even with him through 150, (where we passed a cop, oops). was a little back and fourth moving but like a total of 3 feet. Had 3 cars trying to hang with to watch so there are witnesses.
 
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Ok that's it. I am going to buy a Gallardo.
 
Old Jul 28, 2005 | 01:48 PM
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I had a chance to race a Gallardo from a roll, 50 to 110 (I had a passenger in my car who can concur). My KB 03 was laying down 606 whp at the time. Let me tell you that the Gallardo and I were almost dead even. Those things are way faster than they say. I bet many of the owners don't go throw them on the dyno to see what they make, but if they did I be it would prove they don't make 550 at the crank. Those things are really fast.
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I had a chance to race a Gallardo from a roll, 50 to 110 (I had a passenger in my car who can concur). My KB 03 was laying down 606 whp at the time. Let me tell you that the Gallardo and I were almost dead even. Those things are way faster than they say. I bet many of the owners don't go throw them on the dyno to see what they make, but if they did I be it would prove they don't make 550 at the crank. Those things are really fast.
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Maybe I had a freak of a cobra. I don't think anyone would dispute that a 606rwhp Cobra SHOULD (not will) beat a gallardo. (600rwhp cobra will trap in the very very high 120s or low 130's). I know I ran shank about 3 times all with the same outcome. HOWERVER I do also have a video of a 760rwhp Cobra Conv, against a 484rwhp Viper and it is very even , so weight and gearing are huge.
 
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Claiming peak horsepower numbers isn't a valid way to decide how a car will perform - it's a matter of *where* the horsepower is made, along with weight, gearing, and traction.

There are plenty of guys around my area of town that have Mustangs producing *big* peak horsepower numbers. The trouble is, the big power is made in the last 500 rpm before redline - a lot of good that does them. These cars with "late horsepower" claim their big numbers as something to watch out for, when in fact they aren't very fast at all.
 
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Very true. Its all power band and gearing. That cobra prob made a very high peak number but i dont know about the powerband. The gallardo ate that car alive. I once raced a Gallardo with an E55 and lost by 1-2 cars max.
 
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In the end, its all good.
 
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Originally posted by Dock (Atlanta)
Claiming peak horsepower numbers isn't a valid way to decide how a car will perform - it's a matter of *where* the horsepower is made, along with weight, gearing, and traction.

There are plenty of guys around my area of town that have Mustangs producing *big* peak horsepower numbers. The trouble is, the big power is made in the last 500 rpm before redline - a lot of good that does them. These cars with "late horsepower" claim their big numbers as something to watch out for, when in fact they aren't very fast at all.
cobras have super strong power bands. Heres a shot of my dyno graph on a bolt on KB cobra with a stock engine and stock headers.
 
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