Porsche calls that the PDK.

I heard it wouldn't come on the first series of the 997TT, but only a bit later. I hope that's wrong!

Greetings,
--Pierre

 

Are you thinking of the PDK (Porsche Doppler-Kupplung)? That is not clutchless, but rather, a dual clutch setup. It was developed by Porsche and used on the 956 but did not continue forward.

VW-Audi recently resurrected it as their DSG trans.

Greg A

EDIT: Pierre answered your question while I was typing my response.

 

Does this also apply to the European Market? Also, how much smaller will the dealer allocations be? Thanks.

 

I had "dual clutch" when I first posted, but went back and erased it as I wasn't exactly sure. Yes, that is the same setup that I was talking about. I remember the "Kupplung". Thanks for the info.

 

Any idea how fast the DSG shifts? Tip is 200ms, F1 by Ferrari is 150ms, SMG is 80ms. Interesting to see how fast the DSG is and if it's smooth. Has Audi rolled out DSG in production model cars? Anyone driven DSG?

I was amazed at SMG's shifting speed. With a little practice, you can get it as smooth as a manual.

 

DSG will be used in the Veyron (it can take a bit of torque). Bscher says it will be as quick as a Formula1. Which makes sense, since all it has to do is release a clutch (the gear change is already done).
PDK should be just as good.

The manual clutch and shifters are living their last years ...

 

DSG was introduced on the Audi TT last year! I heard it's very fast unless it has to downshift 2-gears. If that happens, the downshift takes about 1 full second!!!

- KJ

 

That is until they let their dealers gouge, sell off all the 997 C4S's,
let the press and mag rags rave over the car and how it's the best in the world and then open the floodgates on production.

 

Sounds like perfect timing for me. That'll give me time to finish residency and fellowship and pick up a 1 year used low mileage '08 model in late '08. I'm hoping they'll be running in the $110k range by then with plenty of tuning options available (assuming an MSRP in the $140k range).

 

My friend Eric who I just saw in Stockholm just took delivery of an Audi with this double clutch setup. He told me then that he was told that Porsche was going to put this setup in 997TT. Eric would you give us some feedback as to how you like it thus far?

Also, will 6 speed 996TT prices firm up because it may be the end of an era?

 

Pretty disappointing across the board. GT3 goes from 375 to 400 hp, meanwhile the Z06 goes from 405 to 500 hp. Unless they drop about 300 lbs. off this car their is no point (knowing the trend it probably will gain weight). Even at the rumored 420 hp, they would have had ground to make up. 500 hp is the minimum to compete in todays "high-end" car category. Watch these things sell like dogs after the initial rush.

 

Yes it worth dumping it for the "VW Bug headlights" 997TT... atleast then your 996TT wont look like the original boxter front end

 

Oh no. Don't get me started on front ends. I hope the 997TT has a cool tail, cool intakes and something done with the nose to really set it apart. I will surely get one. Once I see it on the floor, I have no self control, round head lights or not.

 

My sentiments exactly. 500 hp seems to be the norm, not the exception now for high end stuff. Porsche Turbo should be setting the bar not failing to meet it.

 

any ideas on MSRP for the 997TT?

btw, 130K for 400hp panamera & 175k for x50???? that's base price only, so how much will a decently equipped x50 cost??? geez, 507HP M5 is a real bargain now...