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What is the max WHP OEM K24s can attain?

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Old Jan 21, 2014 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Austin@GIAC
Still here, sir. Definitely not going anywhere either. Dyno below was taken from CalCareer's post.

Lol look at your graphs your lines are wacked. You ran around 480rwhp and then the end it went st8 up for less then 509 rpm lol so because of that spike your saying you made all of this hp come on man your not fooling no one. Love to see your afrs lol lets say around 13s.
 
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Originally Posted by 996tt550hp
Lol look at your graphs your lines are wacked. You ran around 480rwhp and then the end it went st8 up for less then 509 rpm lol so because of that spike your saying you made all of this hp come on man your not fooling no one. Love to see your afrs lol lets say around 13s.
That is a fairly normal curve for any tuner that doesn't turn off the fueling safeties up top, when the OEM fuel pump drops pressure (especially on 91 octane fuel). These are target lambda cars and we definitely don't run them lean. I am not sure what the chip on your shoulder is, but it's no secret that our K24 cars have always been very strong performers (when the car is healthy and properly maintained). If our cars didn't perform like we advertise, we surely wouldn't have been a major player in the market for nearly 14 years.
 
Old Jan 21, 2014 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Austin@GIAC
That is a fairly normal curve for any tuner that doesn't turn off the fueling safeties up top, when the OEM fuel pump drops pressure (especially on 91 octane fuel). These are target lambda cars and we definitely don't run them lean. I am not sure what the chip on your shoulder is, but it's no secret that our K24 cars have always been very strong performers (when the car is healthy and properly maintained). If our cars didn't perform like we advertise, we surely wouldn't have been a major player in the market for nearly 14 years.
Dude look at the end of the rpms you were around 480 hp your claiming over 500awhp dude you were not even close. Those curves are not very good at all looks like timing is being pulled. anyway thats not awhp even if it was your still not close you said 500awhp+ lol.
 

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Originally Posted by 996tt550hp
Dude look at the end of the rpms you were around 480 hp your claiming over 500awhp dude you were not even close. Those curves are not very good at all looks like timing is being pulled. anyway thats not awhp even if it was your still not close you said 500awp+ lol.
If you look at the plot, both software flashes have the bump in horsepower. As Austin said, that is what you are going to see when you are on stock fueling with 91 octane.

For reference, here is the Vbox of that same car that Austin referenced in an earlier post. It is clear from the Vbox run that the car is pulling timing, has a poor AFR, and is not even being measured in seconds (maybe it is in lightyears?). Who needs to data log when you can just look at a dyno plot and know everything the car is doing

 
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
i made 510 rwhp on a 1 bar tune am i making the numbers up? shall i post the dyno sheet?
Steve even tho its a 1 bar tune it goes past it. Like mine was set at 1bar in the start but it goes too 1.1 bars. I still believe u i know you and your car its a bad *** car but Giaci claiming 520awhp on stock k24s lol thats over 550rwhp lol
 
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I did a back to back test on the Dyno , have the sheets,,back at that 505 hp level and all I will say is that I put the stock set-up back on after the test.
 
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Originally Posted by johnspeed
I did a back to back test on the Dyno,, have the sheets,,back at that 505 hp level and all I will say is that I put the stock set-up back on after the test.
+1 thank you i knew it was around there for hp. How much boost? Also have you the 18g setup right?
 
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Yes I have had the 18g for some time now going thru the stages with that also on the Dyno.
I did a dyno test back to back which I did a thread with the sheets back awhile ago. I was a 600 rear wheel HP then on a Dyno jet.
Basically Tim NY gave me his modified IPD modified plenum, close to stock, as he use to make 800hp with it, so it was more of a test of 68TB to 74TB which I did a thread back then with sheets posted..
It did as Protomotive and Markski predicted,, a slight bump in upper mid range helping the dip that most have there.
 
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Originally Posted by johnspeed
Yes I have had the 18g for some time now going thru the stages with that also on the Dyno.
I did a dyno test back to back which I did a thread with the sheets back awhile ago. I was a 600 rear wheel HP then on a Dyno jet.
Basically Tim NY gave me his modified IPD modified plenum, close to stock, as he use to make 800hp with it, so it was more of a test of 68TB to 74TB which I did a thread back then with sheets posted..
It did as Protomotive and Markski predicted,, a slight bump in upper mid range helping the dip that most have there.
Ya now i remember those are really good numbers for those 18gs i hope i get mine fixed lol.
 
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Originally Posted by 996tt550hp
Ya now i remember those are really good numbers for those 18gs i hope i get mine fixed lol.
Yes my car really runs great after getting everything dialed in to the tee, plus spending all that money and time dynoing and also traveling to the two different tuners places to get it to this point ....LOL..
That's what always stops me from going to the next level , so torn, because I am only going to run 93 pump gas..
 
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Originally Posted by johnspeed
Yes my car really runs great after getting everything dialed in to the tee, plus spending all that money and time dynoing and also traveling to the two different tuners places to get it to this point ....LOL..
That's what always stops me from going to the next level , so torn, because I am only going to run 93 pump gas..

I moved over to Tony's tune wow he gave me an aggressive tune last week at 1.1 bars and it feels great. He really knows his stuff.......
 
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Originally Posted by 996tt550hp
Steve even tho its a 1 bar tune it goes past it. Like mine was set at 1bar in the start but it goes too 1.1 bars. I still believe u i know you and your car its a bad *** car but Giaci claiming 520awhp on stock k24s lol thats over 550rwhp lol
considering i was sitting in the car datalogging while the pulls was being done i can tell you i was never over 1 bar. believe me or not it doesnt matter to me. for you to say its not possible to see 530+ on oem k24 turbos is ignorance on your part.
as for what giac claims thats between you and them and i have no dog in that arguement. i think once you start doing some serious dataloggs you might learn a thing or two.
 
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+1, my GIAC tune is very strong, tons of power under the curve...wouldn't doubt what they advertise at all, only reason I am planning on re-tuning elsewhere is flexibility to setup the way I desire.
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
considering i was sitting in the car datalogging while the pulls was being done i can tell you i was never over 1 bar. believe me or not it doesnt matter to me. for you to say its not possible to see 530+ on oem k24 turbos is ignorance on your part.
as for what giac claims thats between you and them and i have no dog in that arguement. i think once you start doing some serious dataloggs you might learn a thing or two.
Evoms even they said its not possible at 1.0 bar. Johnspeed dynoed his and made 505hp and my car at 1.2 bars made 506whp i understand if its at 1.2 bars but not at 1.0 bar.

530awhp on on stock k24?????? Agh i think anyone will tell you its not possible. You would be beating 18gs.
 
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Originally Posted by 993GT
+1, my GIAC tune is very strong, tons of power under the curve...wouldn't doubt what they advertise at all, only reason I am planning on re-tuning elsewhere is flexibility to setup the way I desire.
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Of course they are very strong you will get a good high 11s times if you are a great driver of you are a ok driver then you will be in the 12s but there showing 480rwhp once you upgrade you will have a new animal in the high 10s. I have been on all dynos they will put you in reality once you see the real numbers. Lol
 


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