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Tilton triple carbon who should I contact?

Old Jun 26, 2014 | 05:20 AM
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Tilton triple carbon who should I contact?

Guys who have a Tilton who should I deal with on a tripple carbon? Any recommendations?
 
Old Jun 26, 2014 | 07:54 AM
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Give us a ring (ask for Eric or Will), we developed the original "street" kit for the 996tt and has a custom heavier flywheel made for this application.
 
Old Jun 26, 2014 | 04:49 PM
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erp triple carbon and never look back
 
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erp triple carbon and never look back
+1... I think the biggest thing I've heard to be a plus on the erp tripple carbon is the improved hard-shifting. The fact that the clutch runs a tripple disk configuration takes a lot of stress off of the trans.
 
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Are you running one?
 
Old Jun 27, 2014 | 06:05 AM
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erp triple carbon and never look back
I know its cheaper but is it better than a Tilton?i know my Lambo can only run a Tilton cause nothing else will hold the power.
 
Old Jun 27, 2014 | 08:15 AM
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I know its cheaper but is it better than a Tilton?i know my Lambo can only run a Tilton cause nothing else will hold the power.
We've been running Tilton in street cars from 400hp-1,600HP for over a decade, there are always claims that "this will be better, this will be cheaper and better", etc yet if you look at the charts for the quickest and fastest cars out there, they all end up going with a Tilton triple or quad carbon. Great holding power, driveability, and another important factory overall weight (it's quite a bit lighter than anything on the market and we're talking about rotational weight right off the crank). That being said there are other options out there for those not trying to set the world on fire, but when guys come here wanting to go fast, they typically only get one option.

I'm getting ready to test a cerametalic street 7.25 version for the street car guys who want a cheaper option and don't need to hold over 600-700hp.
 
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Originally Posted by onelove
We've been running Tilton in street cars from 400hp-1,600HP for over a decade, there are always claims that "this will be better, this will be cheaper and better", etc yet if you look at the charts for the quickest and fastest cars out there, they all end up going with a Tilton triple or quad carbon. Great holding power, driveability, and another important factory overall weight (it's quite a bit lighter than anything on the market and we're talking about rotational weight right off the crank). That being said there are other options out there for those not trying to set the world on fire, but when guys come here wanting to go fast, they typically only get one option.

I'm getting ready to test a cerametalic street 7.25 version for the street car guys who want a cheaper option and don't need to hold over 600-700hp.
The torque I make required a quad disc setup. I was not willing to run such a light weight setup. I spoke with the guys at Aasco quite in depth about it. They truly know whats what. Even with added inertia ring I felt it was still not enough rotating mass. No weight on a flywheel is great for a N/A car on a track, but in the street the heavier flywheel helps get the car rolling smoothly and help put the power down by slowing the power delivery. Not all cars have ripple walls and the streets are not covered in VHT.. lol.. Aasco said they could make a setup for me. Everything I wanted but it would not be carbon!... Ceramic plates and I did not want that again as the dust gets right on the crank trigger pickup and messes with the signal. BTW I have the fastest watercooled 1/4 mile and Chris Green has the quickest 1/4 mile time in the USA. We both run the ERP setup. I use the steel version, Chris can chime in about his setup.

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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim941NYC
BTW I have the fastest watercooled 1/4 mile and Chris Green has the quickest 1/4 mile time in the USA. We both run the ERP setup. I use the steel version, Chris can chime in about his setup.

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Chris uses a steel triple carbon erp as well.

Tilton has a horrible metalic ringing sound when you first start the car, I wouldnt be able to live with that.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim941NYC
The torque I make required a quad disc setup. I was not willing to run such a light weight setup. I spoke with the guys at Aasco quite in depth about it. They truly know whats what. Even with added inertia ring I felt it was still not enough rotating mass. No weight on a flywheel is great for a N/A car on a track, but in the street the heavier flywheel helps get the car rolling smoothly and help put the power down by slowing the power delivery. Not all cars have ripple walls and the streets are not covered in VHT.. lol.. Aasco said they could make a setup for me. Everything I wanted but it would not be carbon!... Ceramic plates and I did not want that again as the dust gets right on the crank trigger pickup and messes with the signal. BTW I have the fastest watercooled 1/4 mile and Chris Green has the quickest 1/4 mile time in the USA. We both run the ERP setup. I use the steel version, Chris can chime in about his setup.

Tim
With all due respect, didn't realize that you or Chris had gone quicker than EvoMS Mayhem that ran 9.29 @172 with the Tilton setup, it's been a while since I've kept track of the 996/997 quarter mile records. I was speaking primarily of the 7-8 second Supras/ 8 second Gallardos / Vipers, etc running the Tilton setups. We worked with Tilton directly to develop all of the clutches, again these use a heavier flywheel wtih rotational mass positioned to make it feel like it's heavier than it is, but it still sheds considerable weight while remaining drivable. (Also doesn't have the zing strart up we found with the extra weight). We have used the RPS Carbon/Carbon style setups in some cars as well and they have worked great as I'm sure they do in the Porsche (under the ERP name) for those who prefer using a stock style release assembly.

My GT3 is NA so I'm going to go with the superlight weight setup and deal with this noise but the turbos do need a bit more flyhwheel mass to help with driveability which is why we developed this setup in the first place. Most of the flywheels / clutch packs / are interchangible between most vehicles with a spline/hub and flywheel change.
 
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Tilton is great... I have it and since people are dropping fastest this and fastest that.. I believe I have the fastest 1/8th mile off 122 mph.... and did run 155 mph...
with that said, I sold a couple ERP triple carbon and 2 of the 3 had issues during install.. and one will not release up on top... as a matter of fact FADI can chime in...
with that said, I would like to try that clutch for myself on the 997...
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The ERP Clutch just Blew up in the BBI Kong car today at the Shift S3ctor half mile. I believe they are switching to Tilton next week. Cary is a great guy, but I have heard of a lot of issues with the clutch.

The NTH Moto Viper runs a quad tilton. They ran a 191 at Texas Invitational and a 212 at the Chicago half-mile last weekend. To give you an idea the 1600whp 4.0 alpha 16 ran a 212 and the viper is rear wheel drive without nitrous!
 
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and one will not release up on top...
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Exactly what I have an issue with.
 

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