First test drive: RUF RT12. Part II (or how fast is it?)
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10-31-2005, 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by Crash
Erik, how was the traction?
Erik, how was the traction?
Anyone got more sources for quarter mile times on Enzo and CGT?
The ones I have state 11.5-ish and less ET.
#35
10-31-2005, 08:49 PM
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Originally posted by Crash
Aren´t MT always overly optimistic with their times?
Aren´t MT always overly optimistic with their times?
Maybe on slicks it does...
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11-01-2005, 12:57 AM
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These times will be in Road & Track. Not sure when they will be published. Dec? Jan?
They did 5-6 starts if I remember correct. I think nr 3 was the best.
Performance - RUF RT12 650 hp (RWD):
0-60 mph: 3.15 seconds
0 - 100 mph: 6.62 seconds
0 – 124 mph: 9.7 seconds. (0 - 200 km/h)
¼ mile: 11.0 @ 134 mph (216 km/h)
Highest speed reached: 350 km/h.
Consider the fact that the car was on Pirelli P Zero Rosso street tires. About +15C on a normal piece of street, no drag strip.
Front: 255/35/ZR19 Rear: 305/30/ZR19
Measured with GPS 100 Hz, 1 person in the car.
They did 5-6 starts if I remember correct. I think nr 3 was the best.
Performance - RUF RT12 650 hp (RWD):
0-60 mph: 3.15 seconds
0 - 100 mph: 6.62 seconds
0 – 124 mph: 9.7 seconds. (0 - 200 km/h)
¼ mile: 11.0 @ 134 mph (216 km/h)
Highest speed reached: 350 km/h.
Consider the fact that the car was on Pirelli P Zero Rosso street tires. About +15C on a normal piece of street, no drag strip.
Front: 255/35/ZR19 Rear: 305/30/ZR19
Measured with GPS 100 Hz, 1 person in the car.
#37
11-01-2005, 02:18 AM
concerning traction here is something that is really interesting:
erik drove the rt12 with 650hp, just RWD and normal street tires (Pirelli P Zero Rosso with 305/30/ZR19 r).
he did 0-60 in 3.15s and 0-100 in 6.62s.
for both times the traction of the car is very important.
now look at these times from the R&T shootout this sept.:
they used a 590hp ruf with 4WD and
Pirelli P Zero Corsa (semi slicks) with P235/40ZR-18 f, P315/30ZR-18 r. so this should have even better traction than the one above.
they did 0-60 in 3.4s and 0-100 in 7.4s.
just a champ car and motorbike had better traction from the start. but look at the times, they are slower than the RT12s. man the new ruf must have serious traction, even with RWD. would like to know how it would perform with the 345er 20" tires
erik drove the rt12 with 650hp, just RWD and normal street tires (Pirelli P Zero Rosso with 305/30/ZR19 r).
he did 0-60 in 3.15s and 0-100 in 6.62s.
for both times the traction of the car is very important.
now look at these times from the R&T shootout this sept.:
they used a 590hp ruf with 4WD and
Pirelli P Zero Corsa (semi slicks) with P235/40ZR-18 f, P315/30ZR-18 r. so this should have even better traction than the one above.
they did 0-60 in 3.4s and 0-100 in 7.4s.
just a champ car and motorbike had better traction from the start. but look at the times, they are slower than the RT12s. man the new ruf must have serious traction, even with RWD. would like to know how it would perform with the 345er 20" tires
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#39
11-02-2005, 12:47 PM
After looking at the numbers at a bit more detail, the car actually seems relatively slow. As witnessed, the car does 0-100 km/h in 3.15 seconds and 0-200 km/h in 9.7 seconds.
The 996 RTurbo supposedly did it in 3.3 and 10.0 seconds respectively.
A Manthey car with a declared value of 685 HP does the standing start to 100 km/h (62 mph) in 3.9 seconds and 0-200 km/h in 9.3 seconds, but this time can be reduced to 8.9 seconds with a launch, instead of babying the car.
The 996 RTurbo supposedly did it in 3.3 and 10.0 seconds respectively.
A Manthey car with a declared value of 685 HP does the standing start to 100 km/h (62 mph) in 3.9 seconds and 0-200 km/h in 9.3 seconds, but this time can be reduced to 8.9 seconds with a launch, instead of babying the car.
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11-02-2005, 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by Crash
After looking at the numbers at a bit more detail, the car actually seems relatively slow. As witnessed, the car does 0-100 km/h in 3.15 seconds and 0-200 km/h in 9.7 seconds.
The 996 RTurbo supposedly did it in 3.3 and 10.0 seconds respectively.
A Manthey car with a declared value of 685 HP does the standing start to 100 km/h (62 mph) in 3.9 seconds and 0-200 km/h in 9.3 seconds, but this time can be reduced to 8.9 seconds with a launch, instead of babying the car.
After looking at the numbers at a bit more detail, the car actually seems relatively slow. As witnessed, the car does 0-100 km/h in 3.15 seconds and 0-200 km/h in 9.7 seconds.
The 996 RTurbo supposedly did it in 3.3 and 10.0 seconds respectively.
A Manthey car with a declared value of 685 HP does the standing start to 100 km/h (62 mph) in 3.9 seconds and 0-200 km/h in 9.3 seconds, but this time can be reduced to 8.9 seconds with a launch, instead of babying the car.
As for the manthey car, i cannot comment, but Manthey are really great. However those times are rather quick..
all the best
adam
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11-02-2005, 02:08 PM
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Manthey is respect. I visted them mid-Oct. Perhaps time to write a story? 
Don't know, but I don't think they 'babied' these launches.
I heard (not sure if correct) MR only built 3 of these M700 conversions so far.
Manthey Porsche M700, 595hp, 800Nm, 348km/h
http://www.rs6.com/forum/showthread....hlight=manthey
0-100 kph (0- 60 mph) 3.9 secs.
0-160 kph (0-100 mph) 7.0 secs.
0.200 kph (0-125 mph) 10.0 secs.
Vmax = 348 kph (217 mph)
Manthey M700, 0-200 km/h in 9,2 secs...
http://www.rs6.com/forum/showthread....hlight=manthey
Don't know, but I don't think they 'babied' these launches.
I heard (not sure if correct) MR only built 3 of these M700 conversions so far.
Manthey Porsche M700, 595hp, 800Nm, 348km/h
http://www.rs6.com/forum/showthread....hlight=manthey
0-100 kph (0- 60 mph) 3.9 secs.
0-160 kph (0-100 mph) 7.0 secs.
0.200 kph (0-125 mph) 10.0 secs.
Vmax = 348 kph (217 mph)
Manthey M700, 0-200 km/h in 9,2 secs...
http://www.rs6.com/forum/showthread....hlight=manthey
#42
11-02-2005, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by AdamT
Im sorry this is incorrect, there have been no 996 R turbos built to date which are quicker than this RT12. Even the Black 3,8 996 Rturbo with 690bhp...
As for the manthey car, i cannot comment, but Manthey are really great. However those times are rather quick..
all the best
adam
Im sorry this is incorrect, there have been no 996 R turbos built to date which are quicker than this RT12. Even the Black 3,8 996 Rturbo with 690bhp...
As for the manthey car, i cannot comment, but Manthey are really great. However those times are rather quick..
all the best
adam
#43
11-02-2005, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by Erik
Manthey is respect. I visted them mid-Oct. Perhaps time to write a story?
Don't know, but I don't think they 'babied' these launches.
I heard (not sure if correct) MR only built 3 of these M700 conversions so far.
Manthey Porsche M700, 595hp, 800Nm, 348km/h
http://www.rs6.com/forum/showthread....hlight=manthey
0-100 kph (0- 60 mph) 3.9 secs.
0-160 kph (0-100 mph) 7.0 secs.
0.200 kph (0-125 mph) 10.0 secs.
Vmax = 348 kph (217 mph)
Manthey M700, 0-200 km/h in 9,2 secs...
http://www.rs6.com/forum/showthread....hlight=manthey
Manthey is respect. I visted them mid-Oct. Perhaps time to write a story?
Don't know, but I don't think they 'babied' these launches.
I heard (not sure if correct) MR only built 3 of these M700 conversions so far.
Manthey Porsche M700, 595hp, 800Nm, 348km/h
http://www.rs6.com/forum/showthread....hlight=manthey
0-100 kph (0- 60 mph) 3.9 secs.
0-160 kph (0-100 mph) 7.0 secs.
0.200 kph (0-125 mph) 10.0 secs.
Vmax = 348 kph (217 mph)
Manthey M700, 0-200 km/h in 9,2 secs...
http://www.rs6.com/forum/showthread....hlight=manthey
Btw, Adam, did you know that the black 3.8L RTurbo is for sale for 212.000 Euros?
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11-02-2005, 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by Crash
the difference between the 590 RTurbo and the 650 Rt12 was only 0.15 second on the 100-200 km/h pull. That´s the thing that strikes me as odd.
the difference between the 590 RTurbo and the 650 Rt12 was only 0.15 second on the 100-200 km/h pull. That´s the thing that strikes me as odd.
The R Turbo and the RT12 was driven at different times, different drivers and different conditions.
The RT12 times will be published in Road & track, and one of their writers drove the car. But it was +10-15C on a normal piece of road. If the R Turbo was on a drag strip or similar there will be a big difference in traction.
Take the times for what they are. If you want a comparable result: have both cars at the same time with the same driver.
At last, these cars are so fast even a tenth of a second might be hard to improve. Look at top fuel cars. Thye are fighting to improve 1/100 of a sec.