Going to be ordering a GT2 front bumper in a few days...
 

I have been holding off a few more weeks hoping to get lucky and find a used oem gt2 front bumper, Well that obviously is not going to happen lol. So time has come and i need to make a decision. I know most people recommend Precision Porsche and I most likely will end up going with them. Before i make a purchase are there another manufactures that are worth buying from? Has anyone heard of MJSpeed? He is on the forum, I know he makes some really nice bumpers out of carbon for the gt3 guys, But i am having a really hard time getting a hold of him.. Any thoughts?

OEM and do the whole set up with ducts etc.

thats just completely unreasonable for a 13 yr old car. while i agree with using the proper ductwork is best this also includes the brake ducts the inner fender liners the radiator ducts and the pieces that attach to the bumper itself. this is over 4000$. add another 4000$ JUST for the poly bumper and it borders on insanity. save 2500$ and use the precision911 bumper or save 5000$ and use a RUF front bumper.

^That is your opinion mine just happens to be different. People spend money the way they see fit, some buy engine mods totaling way higher or second cars etc. that needs work. I would buy OEM and do it all.

Do you have it on your car?

i have the precision911 bumper on my car. working on gathering the needed parts for a functional front end

No I personally do not care for trying to make a car look like something its not even though I have done it when I was younger. I would have bought a GT2 if I wanted one. I do use OEM parts when fit and finish are as apparent as they would be in this circumstance. I do really like the GT2 bumper set up and can see why you would desire it.

The GT2 bumper isn't just about appearance, it's an improvement in aero. Having a 'glass bumper myself I'd suggest the RUF bumper. It has proper aero, comes with ducts, looks great, and is cheaper. It's also not made of 'glass! I'm sorely tempted to get one but may go for the 997 look with running lights instead and grit my teeth over the fiberglass :(

I went for the GT2 Precision911 bumper for better aero at the track, not to make a GT2 replica. Way better downforce up front.

Better for the air to go over the top (aka down force) of the hood than under the car (aka lift) at speed.

I'm not positive and pwderhound can confirm but i think the RUF bumper is fiberglass. it does come with the ducts but you will still need the inner fender liners and gt2 brake ducts to complete the aero.

-:) different strokes for different folks.
If you can afford it, go OEM.

RUF bumper is absolutely NOT fiberglass. It comes with the two side ducts that are unique and larger than GT2 and a GT2 center duct. I don't believe the liners are replaced, they certainly hadn't been on Irish's car. I helped him install the center duct properly on his car and handled the bumper extensively doing so. His was one recently and can probably comment on what exactly came with it but I don't think he had to source anything.

I have the RUF and its 100% not fiberglass. The benefit of the RUF is that it's a one stop shop so to speak. Mine came with the urethane bumper, center and side ducts, undertray, and all new hoses. The only thing they didn't provide was coolant. And it was about 3500 shipped iirc. To do the oem gt2 it would've cost 10+k and that wasn't worth it to me. Everyone has their own preference, but if you can spare the coin, I'd get the RUF.

Is there a decrease in efficiency/performance if you do only the gt2 bumper or is it just that there is a performance increase over stock if you do the full ducting etc?

if it wasn't for the ducting, it would be mostly about looks. no?

can you imagine spending $10K NOW to do it right on a car with values as low as these? i can see *maybe* when new. but then i can also see paying for a gt2rs. in my next life.

Center duct on the GT2 is designed to flow air out above the bumper in front of the hood, side ducts designed to cool better I think and can route air to the brakes. The GT2 has different brake cooling that's supposed to be better, those ducts may be what Krazy was talking about missing from the RUF? They're really just air guides I think, the full GT2 uses them for sure. Mikelly's write up on the conversion has the details I think?

I don't believe you're going to get any of the function without the ducting. I mean the RUF was wind tunnel tested and comes with the ducts. Without them, it just looks cool.

i have custom ducting that runs from r/l from the fascia ( round holes, dont ask me how "they" did it ) that allow me to run simple 2" hoses that leads air directly to the calipers and is tucked away nicely. i still have to replace it annually as i scrape it to bits.

it's easily as cool :rolleyes: as any gt2 ducting :) and cost me about 5 bucks LOL

That will cool the brakes well but doesn't have the other aero benefits. Frankly considering my traffic here that's not a huge concern for me. I've got a 'glass bumper with a GT2 style duct that probably isn't setup right, for street driving it's fine but I know it's not optimal. If you seriously track the car additional cooling is supposed to be needed and the GT2 stuff is supposed to work well. Pretty sure I've seen the air guides from a GT2 setup with stock fender liners too here somewhere.

The RUF bumper is damn nice and certainly more durable than what I have. If I thought it would look okay with my Techart side skirts it would be an easy decision, wish it had DRL :( Actually, I wish more than one company made OEM quality aftermarket bumpers for our cars!

i wasn't sure what the bumper was made of. nice to hear it isn't glass. the brake ducting goes hand in hand with the inner liners to direct the air to the calipers since the gt2 liners aren't vented like the turbo liners. this keeps more air inside the ducting routing thru the radiators

if i were you i'd simply match the tech art skirts with their ta bumper though the ruf also is fully functional AND looks boss.. but that's me. as for more aerodynamics, i have zero need for it as it's a dedicated hillclimber, and its tracking days while behind it, though she is not out to pasture by any means :) but i am seriously considering the 997 techart styled TA front for looks and the drl's from precision911.

and yes, my calipers/rotors stay as cool as they possibly can with my setup. it;s actually fairly innovative and was done by my shop for the PO, and it definitely works. i STILL dont know how they made the holes in the front fascia as it "looks" "oem", and not "home made". all except for my home depot a/c hose that is :rolleyes:

i would go ruf or the techart styled 997TA front, before an aftermarket gt2 front, esp without the ducting! but again, that's just me.

Ya, like minds here. I love the RUF because it looks great and won't have the issues of my 'glass nose with wear and tear but the look isn't exactly what I'd like. I will say it FITS! No muss no fuss the piece is as good as OEM, not so 'glass pieces. But I badly want the DRL look and something that matches existing pieces.

To the OP, I'd go RUF if you want the GT2 look but can't afford the OEM pieces. It's a complete setup at a reasonable price all things considered and it's as durable as a stock bumper. I have some rock impacts on my nose that have starred the paint, I have a slight crack from a curb, the piece is completely stiff with no flex so speed bumps and curbs are my enemy. It looks great and might have been cheaper (PO install) but the RUF is simply better overall from a day to day standpoint and it works well as a stock bumper replacement. I still might get one dang it.

Has anyone tried or seen the MJspeed front bumper? looking for pics or reviews with no luck. I heard its carbon and IMSA and pirelli challenge cars run his stuff

If anyone spends 10k on a front bumper (that gets trashed) for a 40k car, let me know. I want a good laugh.

No different than spending 20k on a motor and it going south but see your point. Its really how a person wants to spend their money and or how much of it they have. I would never spend the kind of money on mods that people spend here and I have it. I say do what makes you happy but when asking for opinions expect them= that's why I rarely ask.

Going to be ordering a GT2 front bumper in a few days...
 

Where can I see this TA 997 bumper with drl's. I must be typing in wrong. I have a glass GT2 replica that I haven't installed yet that I purchased from 32Krazy. I had planned to modify it but I would rather have something a little cooler on there, after all I just completed my new paint booth so let the modding begin!!

http://i60.tinypic.com/2r289li.jpg

^ ha looks as if tinypic remains true to its name. here's the link. 1800 is all, plus you need the drl's. not bad!

http://precision911.com/techart-gts-...5-121-pd.html#

ya you dont count on aftermarket strangeness. since ya dont like the led tails either hah!

cmon man.. its a ( fake ) TA! lol

i keep coming back to this page just to stare at donnie new paint booth!! that thing is sick!

i thought it was a joke.. a personal paint booth. ha gotta love it. my car'd look better thats for sure.

Going to be ordering a GT2 front bumper in a few days...
 

Brand new mixing room all state of the art! 22x62x16 high inside dimensions, full side down draft with variable speed frequency drive fans! Floor should be dry enough to put my first bus in Monday morning! Excited!!! I already have the guys figuring out a cool paint job that will be totally different and tasteful!

wow that is beautiful!

Wish you were local! lol I have a neighbor who's a body guy but too busy to do anything for me so far. He's got one hell of a booth too apparently and some sort of crazy German compressor that's near silent using a screw system instead of pistons. Clean cool air he says...

I'm going to have to take a ride up and take a look. I'm sure that the pictures don't do it any justice.

Going to be ordering a GT2 front bumper in a few days...
 

Come on up! I would like to see those tails!

I will as soon as it get back from its steroid injection in a few weeks.

I've also been looking at the techart nose.

I ended up going with a Precision GT2 look front bumper. Came in quick, and packaged very well. I just dropped it off to paint this evening along with a few other pieces, I'll post up some pics once its all back together and detailed up.

Please let us know about fit and finish. I really like the look of the Precision bumpers but doing another 'glass bumper gives me hives lol

Which bumper did you get that gave you problems? What were the issues with it?