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Originally Posted by VGLNTE1
(Post 4550579)
that would be awesome.
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Originally Posted by SeattleTurbo
(Post 4552354)
Interesting. Following this.
I was going to find a way to make the 997 RS stick on fender flares work and then cut the fender behind it to give actual clearance. I'm not convinced there is a difference in the shape/size of the wheel opening area when measuring side by side with my neighbor's 997 that would rule out the stick on on the fender portion from fitting... Wouldn't surprise me if something about it isn't the same. |
Originally Posted by stevemfr
(Post 4552547)
There is a significant difference. 997 wheel openings are quite a bit larger than the 6s - hence the 19" wheels on 997s. I laid my 997 RS stick on flares (OEM) on 996 fenders for John (pwdrhound) as he was considering the same thing. I am traveling, so I don't have much time to search, but I am quite sure I posted them in another thread. You'd either be enlarging the wheel opening so much that you will have to do all sorts of reworking to the rocker/bumper etc. or you have to do all sorts of reworking to the flares - which will be very difficult as they are PUR. Custom flares would be easier and cheaper. And this is also why John is going this route...
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Originally Posted by Sourcerock
(Post 4552310)
Changed out the springs in my KW's and rolled my front fenders this weekend. Everything was out, including removing the bumper fasteners closest to the fender.
I held the bumper out 1" (where the bumper meets the fender at the wheel opening). This showed how the fender would need to move out starting at the bottom of headlamp where it intersects the bumper. IMO an inch is achievable without visible distortions to the bumper. The bumper should still meet up with the headlight with a factory fit. I doubt it would be very noticeable and still honor the lines of the car. There would need to be some non-visible adjustments below to the front tray and the liners will require shaping and extensions. Going wider than 1” looks to be problem without lengthening the bumper as the bumper becomes shorter as you push it away from the centerline of the car. I did a clearance check by installing the KWv3’s without the spring. The suspension was articulated with varying degrees of turn-in to full lock. The pinch points are where the bumper and fender meet at the light (call that 10 o’clock) to 1 o’clock. The clearance check was done with 9” finspeed, ET 47, 235/45-18. Camber set at max stock negative camber. My rads have already been moved forward 1” and my liners reshaped for max room. If build correctly, they could look stock. Eager to see the cost of these flared units. |
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.6sp...bfd38e7f3f.png
Turbo bumper with cup flares. You can see the part that goes in where the indicator is does not match right. But the rest looks fine. |
That doesn't look too bad.. I wonder if some modification could be done to the front bumper to make it fit better.
Actually, maybe if that was me I would just build up air guides from the splitter to close the gap. |
Actually, it really doesn't look too bad. I'd still like to see a side shot of that car.
Here is the post with the flare on a 996 fender. It was on RL which is why I didn't find it immediately. The front wheel wells will be larger than the rear. The flares make the wheel opening larger in every direction including length. I have the flare more or less centered in the last pic. Laid on a 997 fender, you'd see no metal inside the flare; the inner curve of the flare follows the hell opening. On top of everything else, if you look at the inside of the flare in the first pic, you'll see how much room you are actually gaining (small indented lip). You are actually only gaining about a finger-thickness of extra tire space. As I said in my post to John, for the (large) sum of money, I'd go with aftermarket. These came with my car or I probably would have even on my build.
Originally Posted by SteveMFr
(Post 13123854)
I don't actually believe it is a different part than the GT3 RS. The Cup flares are def different. But I have not checked the part #s in the PET.
Not ABS, PUR. I should have realized this as I was writing that they are surprisingly heavy for what they are. I've seen aftermarket copies made of ABS, but I can't remember where and a quick search turned up nothing. The form is considerably off for a 996, though. And for $1200 (link in my last post)... I know I could have a pair custom made of fiberglass to the form and shape I want in that price category. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b73710a71b.jpg Front and back with 3M tape and overspray :-p https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...4453447bac.jpg part #s https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...8bcfb66ec4.jpg On a 996 fender. You'd be cutting away well over 1" measured from the wheel arch to the edge of the attachment flange under the flare at the tallest point. I'd find someone versed in glass work and have a pair custom made. Maybe Joe Toth wants to take a stab... |
Great post, Steve. Thank you.
I agree with seeing a side shot of the car above. I've also seen some of those flares made of ABS for around $400, but I'm having trouble tracking it down now. Would be great if Mr Toth took a stab at these. |
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Not sure if this is high jacking the thread or adding to it. John, let me know if you feel a new thread should be started.
After staring at the front fenders of too many cars, I thought the E46M3 fender might have the fender extension needed to graft onto to the turbo fender without going through too much effort to hand form custom extensions. The E46M3's run 18" wheels and are also a fairly tight package. I found a damaged fender for $100 to experiment and decide if this is a reasonable aesthetic option. I expect anyone considering this mod wants to look as OEM as possible. I cut off the M3 fender extension approx 2 3/4 inches from the flat vertical leading edge (the black and green tape). It has not yet been trimmed perfectly as you can see it runs long in the front and is not fitted to taper down to zero at the bottom. I'm now experimenting with the options of how to blend the bumper. The gain is over 1" of outward clearance and 3/4 height clearance in the key area where clearance is required. Still thinking and considering the options. |
Cargraphic has one solution for this problem. Extension kit:
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.6sp...d15b68418f.png https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.6sp...959def534c.png https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.6sp...90715a98dc.png https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.6sp...e30cd540ab.png The price for both ends is about €2500,-. I don't know exact amount of widening, but I managed to look and handle one installed set last weekend and IMO it's +20 mm / side / end. |
Originally Posted by pete95zhn
(Post 4555020)
Cargraphic has one solution for this problem. Extension kit:
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.6sp...d15b68418f.png https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.6sp...959def534c.png https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.6sp...90715a98dc.png https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.6sp...e30cd540ab.png The price for both ends is about €2500,-. I don't know exact amount of widening, but I managed to look and handle one installed set last weekend and IMO it's +20 mm / side / end. |
I don't recall how I came across this picture. But I have a few from different angles.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.6sp...8a3013795.jpeg |
That looks very tastefully done!
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I agree, that thing looks like it means business!
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Interested...
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