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Installing 997TT Mezger engine in a 996TT ?

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Old Oct 31, 2016 | 08:40 AM
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Installing 997TT Mezger engine in a 996TT ?

Hi gents, anyone done this? Without the VTGs but with ordinary turbos. How much extra work or parts there would be needed? What about the ECU?

My reason to ask is because I could have access to 997TT engines at a lower cost compared to used 996TT engines.

If it's too much of hassle I skip it.

But for example, a gearbox from 997TT was a nice plug and play for the 996TT.

Thanks for info!!
 
Old Oct 31, 2016 | 08:46 AM
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Wasn't the same basic engine used in the 996tt and 997tt?
 
Old Oct 31, 2016 | 10:39 AM
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Hi gents, anyone done this? Without the VTGs but with ordinary turbos. How much extra work or parts there would be needed? What about the ECU?

My reason to ask is because I could have access to 997TT engines at a lower cost compared to used 996TT engines.

If it's too much of hassle I skip it.

But for example, a gearbox from 997TT was a nice plug and play for the 996TT.

Thanks for info!!
Why deal with all that hassle when you can just use the long block and transfer the plenum, harness and other stuff off your old 6TT motor? The issue I see is with adapting over the ECU, wiring and airbox inlets to the decklid. Seems like a ton of work when the benefits are marginal at best. The best part of the 997 turbo motor is the bottom end engine case webbing improvements(started ~04) and the VTGs which actually somewhat of an obstacle for power upgrades.
 
Old Oct 31, 2016 | 10:42 AM
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Mechanically it's a bolt-on job. IIRC all fuel, coolant and A/C lines will match. Electronics/ECU is another thing...boost control (VGT) is one, unless conventional turbos are used, turbos' cooling pump control another issue. Valvel/lift control has some differences too. I haven't seen 997 wiring loom, so I can't say anything about loom/box compatibility. In best case some new or changed wiring is needed with some changes to Motronic's programming. In worst the loom will not plug to ECU at all.
OTH one could switch 996's loom to 997's engine. If SAI pump is deleted all other bells and whistles are in correct places. Then turbos from old 996 engine and 997's turbo cooling pump delete. Problems solved! (In perfect world, that is.)
EDIT: I'd use 997's air filter box, Y-pipe and plenums, much better IMO. Then in tune delete AFM or double one AFM's (997 use two of them) output to simulate 996's system.
 

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Old Oct 31, 2016 | 08:22 PM
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What sensors differ? Crank teeth? Are the vario heads any different? What parts exactly would you be getting? 997.1 engine? If I had access I'd do it but with upgraded rods and pistons
 
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sean at srm has done this swap
 



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