996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
Actually the turbo is worse than a GT2 without those two things, especially without LSD.

#1 Soft steering as already mentioned, cant feel when your losing traction soon enough.
For a sub-par driver, this might be an accurate statement.

#2 300+ extra lbs = more pressure on tires = less traction at speed
Weight loss is a relatively easy fix.

#3 Much loser (motor mounts, etc), less aggressive camber, higher ride height, body roll etc, will ride outside edge of tires in turning and lose adhesion quicker.
FYI...motor (engine) mounts are the same between the GT2 and the Turbo. Part number: 993 375 049 07.

Ride height, camber, body roll, etc.. are all easily fixed with a proper suspension and suspension adjustment.

If you think the GT2 is a widowmaker, wait until some of the dragstars try to take some turns.
So any car that's faster than yours is a "dragstar"? Regardless of what type of suspension, brakes or overall setup it has? Interesting.....
 

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Originally Posted by oak
I wanna convert to just front wheel drive.
 
Old Aug 1, 2007 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by oak
if you want to drive sideways get another car.
 
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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
It's relatively easy.

You remove the front half-shafts, front driveshaft, and the front differential. You then need to either install and corner-balance a coil-over system....or just corner-balance your exisiting system if you have one already.

If you plan on road-coursing the car, you should install LSD to prevent lift/wheelspsin in the corners.

If you do it right, the car will be faster in a straight-line, stop quicker and handle better. Guaranteed.

If you half-*** it like some people, you'll probably be dissapointed.
Hey Scott, I had the car corner balanced on my H&R coilovers and put in H&R sways both in the front and rear but I'm thinking an LSD might be the final piece of the puzzle I need. How much does an LSD go for? How big of an install job is it on the 996tt?
 
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Originally Posted by USCTrojanMan29
Hey Scott, I had the car corner balanced on my H&R coilovers and put in H&R sways both in the front and rear but I'm thinking an LSD might be the final piece of the puzzle I need. How much does an LSD go for? How big of an install job is it on the 996tt?
The 40/60 Guard LSD that the RT-12 uses goes for around $2,500.00. Not sure how much install is though, bro.
 
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So, has anyone changed the front whel carrier and surrounding parts to the GT2 spec?

I would think this will also improve handling...

Says the guy who is really interested in having a RWD 4 seater Turbo.
 
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not saying it's not possible, of course it is possible. what I am saying is it's not the ideal set up for drifting. if going sideways is what you want to do there are much better choices of vehicles to do that.
 
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Originally Posted by oak
not saying it's not possible, of course it is possible. what I am saying is it's not the ideal set up for drifting. if going sideways is what you want to do there are much better choices of vehicles to do that.
But the GT2 works perfectly fine.

And the Turbo is the same car with AWD and PSM. And if you want to get technical, some suspension bits.

They are the same car.
 
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same isn't same. so similar but oh so different. to the unitiated it's the same.
 
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Originally Posted by oak
same isn't same. so similar but oh so different. to the unitiated it's the same.
Remember, I had the Turbo for two plus years, and have had the GT2 for over a year now.

So, who is the unintiated?

They are the same car, one with eletronics to help most unitiated (to borrow your word) to stay on the road, one without for those who can handle RWD with some HP.
 
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similar is not the same. do the handle they same? you should know you have owned both. the list is long in the differences. if the GT2 is perfect for going sideways why isn't there a single rear engined car in the D1 series? out of all the cars they can choose why don't you see a single porsche?
 
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Originally Posted by oak
similar is not the same. do the handle they same? you should know you have owned both. the list is long in the differences. if the GT2 is perfect for going sideways why isn't there a single rear engined car in the D1 series? out of all the cars they can choose why don't you see a single porsche?
Not to jump in the middle of this discussion but I thought thought I'd share something I recently learned, but there is a Hankook sponsored Porsche being developed for this series... (so I hear from my drifter buddies who all drive 240sx's sideways). I don't know which Porsche it is based on unfortunately. I was at an amateur event of theirs on Sunday at Willow (took a fun ride too!) and they shared this with me...it's definitely not an ideal car for it but it can work well if set up right. Even the 240's require drift specific suspension setups (they mostly use Tein drift specific coilovers and big rear sways!).

On a side note, I'm considering building one of these cars (less than 10 grand for a decent one!) just for a fun toy...

OK, back to regularly scheduled programming...
 
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Originally Posted by oak
similar is not the same. do the handle they same? you should know you have owned both. the list is long in the differences. if the GT2 is perfect for going sideways why isn't there a single rear engined car in the D1 series? out of all the cars they can choose why don't you see a single porsche?
Seriously, you should look up the video of the top Japanese drifter guy drifting a 996 GT3.

Without the PSM and AWD, the GT2 goes sideways on command. This is how it earned the death trap reputation with most people who have the $$ for one, but not the basic skills required for one.

The Turbo, applying the same technique of slight turn on the wheel, foot to the floor in first, caused the PSM and AWD to work furiously to try to keep the car straight.

Both from personal experiences driving them.

Outside of taking out all the sound deadening and heat insulation in the trunk (can't carry fish and meat), a different front suspension and carrier, losing all the plastic undertrays, AWD, and PSM, they are the same car.
 
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I have seen the video. so what? like I said similar isn't the same. there isn't one rear engined porsche in the D1 series of all the top drifters. they can choose any vehicle and not one porsche. why?

like I said, I would love to meet up with you anytime to witness your sideway prowness. maybe you can teach me a few things. I would to learn. pm me and I will meet up with you anytime. and we can do some friendly comparisons.
 
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Originally Posted by Kato
Not to jump in the middle of this discussion but I thought thought I'd share something I recently learned, but there is a Hankook sponsored Porsche being developed for this series... (so I hear from my drifter buddies who all drive 240sx's sideways). I don't know which Porsche it is based on unfortunately. I was at an amateur event of theirs on Sunday at Willow (took a fun ride too!) and they shared this with me...it's definitely not an ideal car for it but it can work well if set up right. Even the 240's require drift specific suspension setups (they mostly use Tein drift specific coilovers and big rear sways!).

On a side note, I'm considering building one of these cars (less than 10 grand for a decent one!) just for a fun toy...

OK, back to regularly scheduled programming...
that particular car is a 993 based GT2. they have owned for quite some time the 993 GT2 wasn't available here in the states. it's strictly a track vehicle. it's not in the D1 series where all the premiere drifters compete.
 


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