Hmm I still have those but the way the mounting point on the H&Rs is, well it doesn't seem like it would make a difference. I would take a look at your drop links now and see if they are bending/bent.

 

I don't want this to die. Tuners ... Help. What's up with the PSS9's and ajustable sways?

 

As I was just about to order the same setup I don't want this to die either. Can anyone chime in on this???

 

read the recent thread about front drop links and the GT-3 sway bar b/c it is with bil pss9. I got very strong drop links from S Car Go and it works very well. It certainly does not look like something that will bend or break. I must apologize for the earlier comment in this thread. I only thought my GT-3 bar was in place and couldn't be adjusted. It was never able to be mounted AT ALL until the drop links were added. It also changes the mounting point to the shock housing lower down as compared to the original mounting point higher up on the pss9 near the shock tower mount. I would love to send a picture but don't know how.

 

I'm looking at the GT3 sways too ... but I'm actually leaning towards just doing the rear.

The rear bar is a piece of cake to install, and the whole purpose is to get rid of the understeer in which case why do you even want to mess with the front bar? Not to mention you'll save a bunch of cash and hassle by not having to buy the front bar and droplinks.

I mean, on a race car I guess you want as much adjustability as possible, but on a street car with occasional track events it seems like just doing the rear bar is the way to go.

Plusyou can always do the front later if you wanted, but I really doubt that 95% of us even need anything other than the stock front bar. Anyone have any input on this?

Does anywhere sell just the rear bar or do you have to buy the pair?

 

Anyone? Am I on the right track or is the front bar useful on a daily driven street car that rarely sees the track?

 

I have a 03 TT (with stock springs and shocks) with adjustable front and rear sways from Racers Group. The front sways have heavy, STRAIGHT drop links and are adjustable in place. They are mounted in front of the front axle.
Racers Group sells front and rear adjustable sways separately.

 

Do you track the car, or "just" drive aggressively on the street? I assume you, like most, upgraded the bars to try to dial out the inherent understeer in the stock set-up. Do you find that the front bar is necessary to do this? Seems to me like it wouldn't be. In fact, it seems like changing the front bar would be counter productive if one was trying to get rid of understeer. Thoughts?

 

The bars were just installed and I have yet to track it (2 weeks and counting). Yes, I installed the bars to reduce understeer. Per Racers Group, the front bars were set to softest of 5 settings and the rear, 4th hardest setting. I am just starting to experiment.

 

Can anyone confirm whether the softest setting on the front GT3 bar is stiffer than the stock bar? Doesn't seem like it is ...

 

Can any suspension experts chime in here once and for all? I just don't see the benefit of an adjustable front sway bar over the stock unit for anything other than a race car. The stock front bar and adjustable GT3 or H&R rear bar should be perfect for getting rid of the stock understeer. Am I missing something?

 

Ask Cary, but I'll offer this: the softest setting on the front GT-3 does not feel stiffer than stock on TT X-50 with PSS-9 and DOT tires. And yes, there is something to the front sway. Remember that there are different turns at diff't loads. Long sweepers with constant load are much diff't than the short, quick technical turns. The sways vs the shock settings can be maximized for only one kind of turn on the friction cirlce. So everything else is a compromise. Add to that diff't lines into a turn if your passing or not at diff't speeds and the variables continue. Depending on conditions, understeer may not be THE problem of a particular problematic turn. The front sway then becomes my last variable adjustment after the shocks, rear sway, and considering the downside of changing the front on other turns. Remember, the engine is still in the back. Believe it or not, there have been times I have set the front sway for one specific turn with PSM off that allows me to slide the back end and pass on a different line without sacrificing the rest of the track, take advantage of the PSM coming back on automatically and making sure the front adjustment doesn't hurt the rest of the performance. Does that help? I guess if nothing else it means all of this is about the track and not the street. My .02

 

By all means, for a car that sees the track often it's a no brainer. For a street car though it doesn't seem necessary if one just wants to get rid of the general oversteer the stock setup has.