996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

For those of you looking for a Gallardo

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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 07:57 PM
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Detailer, you know the rules... you MUST post pics

If you did, then just post a link.
 
Old Jan 30, 2004 | 07:58 PM
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Re: Re: For those of you looking for a Gallardo

Originally posted by Mike/A.W.E.
Are these cars that hard to come by? I was at Manhatten Motorcars two weeks ago and they had appx. 15 in stock. I was told that only 2 were sold.

They had one on a lift for service. It was interesting to see the underside. Nice layout.
That place is so small, I did not even know that they could fit 15 cars there, lol
 
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Manhattan Motorcars, says that they can get a Gallardo for MSRP in 6 months.
 
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Originally posted by Detailer708
Watt..i only drove it 2x!!! Here in ny we have had snow and ice on the ground for 4 weeks now and i really don't want to drive it....i had it on the highway,and it felt like a rocket ship..handeling was awesome,and power....lot's of it!!!
Heys its got 4x4 for a reason dont it
 
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Originally posted by Detailer708
i purchased one at msrp with electric seats,and some other options and paid 178000.00..i am happy with the car for now!!!!but don't go by me..i change my cars like i change my underware!!!
To wit: "Not often enough for those of us who are his friends"
 
Old Jan 31, 2004 | 05:45 AM
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I just bought one this week at Symbolic Motors in La Jolla, CA. I just sold a 360 Spider and a 996 Twin Turbo and I have to say that the lambo is quite amazing. I don't regret the move, the car has 996TT power and corners at 1g, I don't even talk about its unique look. I have the egear paddles that behave just like Ferrari's. It is a very serious car that Audi makes simply more reliable and modern. BTW, call Sean at Symbolic if you want one at sticker, that is simply what I paid and he has a few more available, tell him Blaise sent you.
 
Old Jan 31, 2004 | 03:17 PM
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I just had a quick view of a yellow one headed in the opposite direction on the LIE this afternoon about 3pm. Stood out quite well and well see if it is a car i see around from now on.
 
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I disagree, a Gallardo w/6 speed at $168,000 is not too much, especially when compared to a 360 modena that never sold for sticker and a 99 is still going for$130K. After all it is a Lambo. With your logic someone can call a 911 Turbo a hopped up VW because of outsourcing. Compared to a 360 and Gallardo I feel the Turbo is the true bargain at $120ish, relative to the others performance. A Gallardo's looks,however are to die for. I would get one!
What exact parts from the 911 turbo are outsourced to VW??

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Originally posted by LSM
What exact parts from the 911 turbo are outsourced to VW??

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In 996, Things such as AC unit, controls for heating/cooling, various ***** and buttons etc... On the cayenne we are all familiar that the bodies are all made and painted by VW, now the new 3.2 LV6 is straight out of a VW, and there are many rumors that the 4.5L V8 engine is basically Audis V8 (rumors brought up on another web forum)In addition, I have read that many the 996 body parts are manufactured by BMW for Porsche.
 
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Gallardo's just aren't selling, esp for the $25k over MSRP some dealers are asking.

The Lambo dealers I have been to still have the same couple Gallardos sitting around. I was told by my local dealer that since Oct. they have sold 1. There are still 4 sitting on the showroom floor.

I expected they will have a re-sell trajectory similar to Murcielagos. You can get a 2003 Murcielago, with 3000-4000 miles for $215k, that is almost $100k less than new counting taxes and all.

Don't get me wrong, I really like the Gallardo, I am probably going to pick on up. I just don't want to lose 30% in one year.

I just don't think it has the loyal, almost insane, and illogical following and resale of similar ferraris, like the 360, where a used car that is 2 yrs old, almost out of warranty, and has 10k miles will still sell for MSRP.
 

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Well if gallardo's go to around 140k after a year, that would peak my interest. Does the comparison to the murcielago's price really apply since this is a cheaper car to begin with?
 
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Porsche outsourcing 996 parts to VW

Originally posted by h20tt
In 996, Things such as AC unit, controls for heating/cooling, various ***** and buttons etc...
Boy, that's it??? Don't think that will make a 996 Porsche a VW.

 
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Re: Porsche outsourcing 996 parts to VW

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Boy, that's it??? Don't think that will make a 996 Porsche a VW.

Well some people are sensitive about dropping $100K pus for a car that shares anything with a VW. Anyhow, my remark was a bit sarcastic, bottom line a lambo is a lambo no matter who drops the money for R&D.
 
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Originally posted by h20tt
In 996, Things such as AC unit, controls for heating/cooling, various ***** and buttons etc... On the cayenne we are all familiar that the bodies are all made and painted by VW, now the new 3.2 LV6 is straight out of a VW, and there are many rumors that the 4.5L V8 engine is basically Audis V8 (rumors brought up on another web forum)In addition, I have read that many the 996 body parts are manufactured by BMW for Porsche.



I'll have to call "BS" on the BMW statement.

In the 50 year history of Porsche no BMW part or technology has ever been used.

The VW CEO is the largest Porsche shareholder, let's just say he married strategically when he was a Porsche Engineer developing Porsche race cars.

Porsche's Development and Research Center does work for - you guessed it - VW. And also licenses some of its technology to other car companies - like Mercedes.

The oldest Mercedes factory in Germany is less than 2 miles away from the main Porsche factory. BMW is in Munich, a good two hours south east of Stuttgart. As you all know Munich is Bavaria. In what I think the nicest area of Germany with THE highest cost of doing business in Germany. BMW is a company operating very close to capacity and is heavily outsourcing like any other German automobile manufacturer. I think it is highly unlikely that BMW has a profit center that makes sheetmetal parts for Porsche. This would kill their target profit margins.

Porsches used to have - in 964s - Mercedes connectors and other electrical components (probably because these engineers have lunch together and talk during weekend BBQs).
 
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I am not 100% sure about the BMW connection but am quite confident that I have read something like that in a respectable magazine, I will try to find the source. I am definitely not trying to talk out of my *** so I apologize if I am mistaken. I dont think the distance angle of Munich to Stuttgart holds well, if that was the case Porsche would not manufacture things in Finland. Everything else you said, however I agree with.
 

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