Link to an ebay finding

 

I'm sure that thing would be fun around the corners with its huge single turbo.

RICE, RICE BABY.

 

The videos of your car from the shootout would lead me to believe its just as fun as that RX-8 around a road course. Call it rice all you want, when he's pulling away from you on the freeway that's all that matters

 

Looks really cool, but 73 grand is way to much for that car, and the reserve has not even been met.

 

uh huh...

ZAMIRZ, you obviously don't know what the hell you're talking about.

why don't you prepare a car for the next shootout and find out for yourself?

 

Hamann, according to your dyno at the shootout your numbers are as follows: 551.7 to the wheels 535 torque. Now assuming that cars hp claim is correct, it has approximately 250whp on you and and an RX-8s curb weight is approximately 300 lbs. lighter than that of a 996TT according to supercars.net. Now the only limiting factors are aerodynamics and gearing, are you telling me your car can make up 250whp while carrying an extra 300 lbs. because of superior aero and gearing? What am I missing here?

EDIT: I emailed the seller and asked him to verify the hp claim via dyno sheet, if he emails me it I'll post it up.

 

 

hmmm... let's see... approx. 200 lbs. was stripped off my 996TT, it runs 18" Michelin PSC's on a corner balanced suspension, and runs two Garrett T04E's that start making boost at 2500rpm's.

Let's see here, this RX-8 has HANKOOK VENTUS tires on 19" wheels. What a joke. You obviously have not driven a large, single Turbo car and fail to see what a significant disadvantage lag is on a track.

There are 911's with large single Turbos that can do over 1000hp. So what?

The 551hp figure was to all 4 wheels on a Mustang AWD load bearing dyno. And running only 1.2 bar. Geez, I can only imagine how much boost this RX-8 is running. You also can't compare two dyno numbers unless they were done on the same machine and under similar conditions.

And you speak as if my car performed poorly at the track. Is this why we came in FIRST overall at the Shootout with a close Top 3 or 4 lap time?

 

hahah...a rotor on big boost = 1 blown engine...they are a nice car, but not a SERIOUS performance car

 

I was only referring to your reply telling me I obviously don't know what the hell I'm talking about, which I'm assuming was in regards to me saying this car will pull your 911 on the freeway. I wasn't making any type of comparison to this car around a race track, there is no question yours is superior given equal drivers (although from what I heard about your car at the shootout it wasn't exactly easy to drive). I also did not realize your hp figure was at all 4 wheels, I assumed the driveshaft was disconnected and the cars dynoed to the rear wheels only, for that I apologize (I told you there was something I was missing ). The only "large single-turbo car" I've driven was a Supra with a T04R turbo that was definately laggy, but well-suited to what it was built for (going very fast on the highway). I still think your comment "RICE, RICE BABY" was fairly ignorant as there are many tuned japanese cars out there that would give a 996 Turbo a run for its money, but to each their own.

regards,

amir

 

uh hello, my turbo was built with rice parts.

if anything, i probably have more exposure to the japanese stuff than most people here.

and unless you spoke with Cort Wagner directly, I don't see who could have told you that my car was hard to drive around the track, because that's not what he told me.

It doesn't matter how fast a japanese car is, it's still Japanese. Even the Japanese have a fixation for Porsches.

Every time Nissan has tried to claim that the Skyline was the best platform in the world at the Nurburgring, they failed to beat the 911's.

Then the Option 350Z tried to win the Silver State Classic, and within 7 miles, it crashed and rolled.

The euros are WAY WAY WAY ahead of the Japanese in almost every form of racing, perhaps except for WRC and MotoGP/AMA Superbike.

That's why rice is still rice.

 

Hmmm, 800 hp, is that all.

 

That's what Silvino and Cong (the two black supras) would say

 

Those are planted bids - not real.

 

How much would you have to add to horsepower at all four wheels to equate what your horsepower would be at only the rear wheels?

2 wheel dyno 15-18% loss
4 wheel dyno 25-28% loss

586 hp on rear wheel dyno = 674 to 691 at the flywheel

586 hp at all four wheels dyno = 692 to 750 at the flywheel

Is 25-28 correct for all wheel dyno? Does using the front driveshaft and wheels double the parasitic loss?