16/24 Hybrid vs K24 Dyno Data Comparison Spreadsheet
Originally Posted by K24madness
No its just what I found to be true when testing various combinations. I can't begin to tell you how many different turbo combinations I have tried.
Now come on and out with it! Would love to hear all the different turbos you've tried on the 993TT and from that perspective. I've only tried 5 combos- all of which I actually liked for different reasons...
Originally Posted by VRAlexander
Sharkster-
Thats just too much information for a public forum...
I would love to get a ride in the GT800 after she is dialed in...I never had a ride in a EVOMS GT800 6speed...tell me when...so I can skip dinner the night before....
Thats just too much information for a public forum...
I would love to get a ride in the GT800 after she is dialed in...I never had a ride in a EVOMS GT800 6speed...tell me when...so I can skip dinner the night before....Guest
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Originally Posted by sharkster
But sure thing. My guess is that it'll fee like it's quicker off of the line than yours but then your bigger turbos would walk the car away from 60 onwards. Sadly my focus is going to be on the GT3-RS from now on:P No more pushing it too far, I just want to have a 100% daily D turbo car that's comfy, easy to drive and I don't need to worry about heh...
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Originally Posted by sharkster
Now come on and out with it! Would love to hear all the different turbos you've tried on the 993TT and from that perspective. I've only tried 5 combos- all of which I actually liked for different reasons...k16/24 hybrids
K24's
K24/super60
K24/Gt35
factory cats, cat bypass, custom short exhaust, factory headers, fabspeed headers, fabspeed mufflers, factory mufflers and modified factory mufflers.
I used the above turbos with various above exhaust combinations.
I found that if you use factory exhaust the K24's were soooo laggy. If you free up back pressure the turbos responded quite differently.
I found the K24 hybrids (either super 60 or GT35) had great boost response and unreal top end if combined with a good free flowing exhaust. Boost response was similar to factory K16's with factory exhaust.
The fabspeed headers increased lag.
Fabspeed catbypasses, fabspeed mufflers and factory ported headers with K24 hybrids IMHO is one of the best combos for the 3.6 ltr motor.
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Originally Posted by K24madness
Poor comparision.
Should be Hybrid K24's vs Hybrid K16's
Hybrid K24's has LESS lag than stock K24's. The top end is also sooooo much better.
In the end the K24 hybrid is a far better turbo than the K16 hybrid !!
Should be Hybrid K24's vs Hybrid K16's
Hybrid K24's has LESS lag than stock K24's. The top end is also sooooo much better.
In the end the K24 hybrid is a far better turbo than the K16 hybrid !!
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Originally Posted by K24madness
This is from my 993tt running 1.2 bar of boost with K24 hybrids. Expect 75-100 more whp on a 996tt with much better bottom end (due to 4 valves and variable cam design)
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Originally Posted by VRAlexander
Just for everyone's info...here is my dyno sheet with the GT35R's at 1.326bar...keep in mind that the Tial Springs are .6bar...this is on a conservative engine dyno..862hp..
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The car in the real world with .8bar springs hits full boost at or just before 4000RPM's and keeps full boost to 8000RPM's....for me, this is great power under the curve....once your out of first gear...its pretty much lag GAME OVER...I will say it again...its the air flow through the engine that wakes up the 996 tt's..so HEAD WORK.. HEAD WORK.. HEAD WORK!! On a stock head, the powerband would be completely different.
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Well said!!!...and thats 915whp, not 900+wph
....and SPDRACER (amoung others) did wet his pants...I had to steam clean the seat!!
I also have diapers in the glove box just for a joke (well a joke in some cases) !
Here is a photo of a guy that needed a diaper after a 170+mph front straight run at Willow Springs...he was screaming bloody murder as we drifted into turn one...
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The car in the real world with .8bar springs hits full boost at or just before 4000RPM's and keeps full boost to 8000RPM's....for me, this is great power under the curve....once your out of first gear...its pretty much lag GAME OVER...I will say it again...its the air flow through the engine that wakes up the 996 tt's..so HEAD WORK.. HEAD WORK.. HEAD WORK!! On a stock head, the powerband would be completely different.
CJV-
Well said!!!...and thats 915whp, not 900+wph
....and SPDRACER (amoung others) did wet his pants...I had to steam clean the seat!! I also have diapers in the glove box just for a joke (well a joke in some cases) !
Here is a photo of a guy that needed a diaper after a 170+mph front straight run at Willow Springs...he was screaming bloody murder as we drifted into turn one...
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Does your car utilize GT3 heads or turbo heads that have been ported/valved to GT3 specs or greater?
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Originally Posted by KPG
Nice numbers, but that is a 993TT...not a 996TT. Two totally different animals. Do you have any numbers from a 996TT so we can compare. Thanks, Kevin
stock k24's on a 993 = 400 whp with tunning
stock k24's on a 996 = 500 whp with tunning
Folks I have recomended the combo to on 996's have seen close to 600 whp on a mustang dyno. If I can get my hands on a dyno sheet I will post it.
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Originally Posted by K24madness
No I don't. Most people here know the differences would be 75-100 whp.
stock k24's on a 993 = 400 whp with tunning
stock k24's on a 996 = 500 whp with tunning
Folks I have recomended the combo to on 996's have seen close to 600 whp on a mustang dyno. If I can get my hands on a dyno sheet I will post it.
stock k24's on a 993 = 400 whp with tunning
stock k24's on a 996 = 500 whp with tunning
Folks I have recomended the combo to on 996's have seen close to 600 whp on a mustang dyno. If I can get my hands on a dyno sheet I will post it.
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Sharkey,
Tom (K24) is the only guy that I know that not only finished the Kenny Bell
book (I did not), but has reread it several times for FUN!!
MK
Tom (K24) is the only guy that I know that not only finished the Kenny Bell
book (I did not), but has reread it several times for FUN!!
MK
Originally Posted by K24madness
k16's
k16/24 hybrids
K24's
K24/super60
K24/Gt35
factory cats, cat bypass, custom short exhaust, factory headers, fabspeed headers, fabspeed mufflers, factory mufflers and modified factory mufflers.
I used the above turbos with various above exhaust combinations.
I found that if you use factory exhaust the K24's were soooo laggy. If you free up back pressure the turbos responded quite differently.
I found the K24 hybrids (either super 60 or GT35) had great boost response and unreal top end if combined with a good free flowing exhaust. Boost response was similar to factory K16's with factory exhaust.
The fabspeed headers increased lag.
Fabspeed catbypasses, fabspeed mufflers and factory ported headers with K24 hybrids IMHO is one of the best combos for the 3.6 ltr motor.
k16/24 hybrids
K24's
K24/super60
K24/Gt35
factory cats, cat bypass, custom short exhaust, factory headers, fabspeed headers, fabspeed mufflers, factory mufflers and modified factory mufflers.
I used the above turbos with various above exhaust combinations.
I found that if you use factory exhaust the K24's were soooo laggy. If you free up back pressure the turbos responded quite differently.
I found the K24 hybrids (either super 60 or GT35) had great boost response and unreal top end if combined with a good free flowing exhaust. Boost response was similar to factory K16's with factory exhaust.
The fabspeed headers increased lag.
Fabspeed catbypasses, fabspeed mufflers and factory ported headers with K24 hybrids IMHO is one of the best combos for the 3.6 ltr motor.
